Tuesday, 1 May 2018

Cüneyt Çakır in charge of Real Madrid - Bayern München at Santiago Bernabéu

Turkish officiating team led by Cüneyt Çakır has been assigned to the return game of CL Semifinal Real Madrid - Bayern München, to be played in Madrid on 01/05/2018. The game will represent the third appearance for the Elite referee in this CL KO stage.  
01.05.2018, 20:45 CET
Estadio Santiago Bernabéu, Madrid (ESP)
Real Madrid CF - FC Bayern München 
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tarik Ongun (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Hüseyin Göçek (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Barış Şimşek (TUR)
Fourth Official: Mustafa Emre Eyisoy (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Francesco Bianchi (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Mark Blackbourne (ENG)
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  1. Masterspy2629 April 2018 at 11:07

    Expected. And a good choice.

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  2. Soham29 April 2018 at 11:23

    We all knew it for certain nearly from the moment of the draw :D

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  3. Unknown29 April 2018 at 11:30


    Very correct.

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  4. Ugur B29 April 2018 at 11:35

    I hope he keeps his form and officiate world cup final.

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    1. Soham29 April 2018 at 11:47

      I hope he gets a Semi-final "only", you know why :D

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  5. Anonymous29 April 2018 at 11:37

    I like Kuipers in Rome. I hope this will happen

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    1. Soham29 April 2018 at 11:48

      He already did the 1st leg of Bayern v Real :/

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    2. Anonymous29 April 2018 at 11:55

      I know that and he's been very good. That's why I'd like to see him in Rome, the race will be very hot.

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    3. Chefren29 April 2018 at 11:56

      It happened with Çakır to get two semifinals, so for this reason I included Kuipers in the poll. With Collina, you can expect everything.
      In my opinion the name should be among these three choices: Kuipers, Mazic and Skomina. I don't see any different option.

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    4. Soham29 April 2018 at 12:00

      Only if Collina keeps Mazic and Skomina as candidates for the final and choses to protect them, then Kuipers will have a chance but still I'm not sure I can appreciate such a move... Maybe Kuipers appeared in only 2 KO matches till now and that he had some rest in the beginning of the KO stage may play in Collina's mind to bring him in to keep the final candidates safe... But still Mazic can be good I think!!

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    5. CroRef29 April 2018 at 13:09

      I am thinking about appointments, and it came to my mind that maybe this year's appointments are not made by Collina personaly, he approved them, but I have a feeling that Hugh Dallas is the one responsible for appointments. Collina is busy with World Cup preparations since he is head of FIFA's committee so there is a chance Dallas is boss in Europe now. This would explain why there is no Rocchi, Dallas observed him, saw something he didn't like and no more matches for Rocchi. Moreover, Collum got important matches in CL and EL both.

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    6. Mikael W29 April 2018 at 13:15

      @Croref I think that could be a fantastic shout!
      Furthermore this would give added weight to voice of Marc Batta, and looking at Turpin this KO stage (IMO he fully deserves what he's got, but one could have evaluated him with 7,4≥ in Rome).

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    7. Soham29 April 2018 at 13:16

      Even if Rocchi gets Atletico Madrid v Arsenal EL SF, it is more than clear that his performance in Real v PSG was assessed as not good as otherwise he would've definitely got another CL game ahead of Orsato, Makkelie, Oliver and so on... It's more than clear now that his R16 performance was rather not liked by Dallas!!

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    8. Unknown29 April 2018 at 14:45

      In Rome Skomina, Turpin or Mazic.

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  6. Unknown29 April 2018 at 11:54

    Easy match for Çakır. He referees more difficult matches in Turkey.

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  7. Soham29 April 2018 at 12:05

    By the way, is there any latest update on Skomina and his team members' appointments this week?? Any changes made??

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    1. Sale29 April 2018 at 13:00

      None. They are not appointed in Slo.

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    2. Soham29 April 2018 at 13:12

      Maybe we will see their name tomorrow... But I personally don't expect it as Skomina is the best choice for CL final this year IMO... But if Skomina appears tomorrow, then appearance for final will be unlikely!!

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  8. Izo29 April 2018 at 12:59

    No changes. Only one appointed for 6.5. is Praprotnik in 2nd slovenian league. Other team members are free.
    So I think that Skomina could get Atlético Vs Arsenal and final CL. :)

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    1. Soham29 April 2018 at 13:14

      Personally I would not appoint a CL final referee for any semi-final before and particularly not in a potentially heated game like Atletico Madrid v Arsenal... I would like Skomina to be kept safe and protected for the night at Kyiv :)

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  9. Chefren29 April 2018 at 13:35

    Other names for Roma - Liverpool if not Kuipers, Mazic and Skomina?

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    1. Soham29 April 2018 at 13:37

      Practically none!

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    2. Philipp S29 April 2018 at 13:43

      The next options should be (IMO in that order) Turpin, Makkelie, Mateu, Karasev, Eriksson, but all are quite unlikely.
      Surprised about 22% at the moment for "Another referee".

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    3. Chefren29 April 2018 at 14:02

      After all the names you mentioned, do you think that Ovidiu Hațegan could be a valid option?

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    4. Philipp S29 April 2018 at 14:07

      I indeed forgot him, but I think I would rank him between Karasev and Eriksson in my list.

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    5. Mlacko29 April 2018 at 14:28

      Or maybe we'll see suprise as we saw in Real Madrid - Juventus when all thought its over?

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    6. Soham29 April 2018 at 14:48

      I hope not... Lessons have been learnt, haven't they?? :)

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  10. Gylfi4629 April 2018 at 14:29

    Good evening,

    Sorry for posting something irrelevant to this topic but your views will be highly appreciated as I really trust this blogs readers and viewers.

    I know its not 100% clear but can you tell me guys what do you about this incident?

    https://streamable.com/batrf

    Should it have been a penalty?

    Suggestion: A permanent post for readers who’ve seen match incidents and would like to discuss it with the rest.

    And thank you Chefren and the rest for this incredible blog.

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    1. Mlacko29 April 2018 at 14:34

      Clear penalty, he could avoid putting hands in front of him but decided to go for a block..

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    2. Soham29 April 2018 at 14:49

      I can't spot the infringement here... So play on for me!!

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    3. Chefren29 April 2018 at 17:43

      Thanks for your words, I really like them. Thank also for your suggestion, indeed something should be done for sure. Many people write here and we must find new room for all discussions.
      About the incident, it looks like a clear deliberate handball, but given the quality of the video and the missing replays, I can't be 100% sure the touch occurred by that raised arms. However, in case, of course clear penalty.

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  11. ned29 April 2018 at 16:47

    Referee Kamphius gets booked for diving in Vitesse v Twente

    https://twitter.com/FOXSportsnl/status/990590395884204032

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    1. Soham29 April 2018 at 17:13

      I love this 😂 But the million dollar question here is will anyone dare to do such with Turpin, Orsato or Mateu Lahoz?? 🙈

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  12. RayHD29 April 2018 at 17:18

    Bartosz Frankowski has been removed from Polish Cup final. He was appointed yesterday but after the performance in Lech Poznań - Górnik Zabrze president of Polish FA Zbigniew Boniek caterogically asked for a change. Piotr Lasyk, a non-FIFA referee, will handle the final on Wednesday.

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    1. Soham29 April 2018 at 17:27

      Do you think it's a good decision?? I don't know what happened exactly so not appropriate to pass a judgement... But overall if I see this my first thought would be this is bonkers!

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    2. Chefren29 April 2018 at 17:39

      This should never happen if you ask me. This can't happen. A referee must be appointed for a game only if committee / managers are sure of the decision. You can't change idea based on another game. You must appoint a referee who is in your opinion ready for the game in any case, otherwise, to avoid that, you can appoint a referee who has not further games before the date. But that's for sure a poor management and it gives a more than bad signal.

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    3. Chefren29 April 2018 at 17:41

      Also, I want to ask, who is Zibi Boniek, to have such power about refereeing?

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    4. RayHD29 April 2018 at 17:55

      Capo di tutti capi. ;)

      It's common knowledge that he controls everything in the Polish FA. And referees are under his supervision, although he doesn't have a basic knowledge in that matter.

      However, let me say, that Frankowski's performance was really poor and aroused media and fans attention. He was saving Lech Poznań players at all cost and it was really frightening... I posted videos yesterday.

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  13. Yk29 April 2018 at 18:17

    OT: RC for DOGSO in 7(?)’ in serie a after var review. Referee also didn’t review the incident himself interestingly.

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    1. Yk29 April 2018 at 18:18

      Also the var overturned the penalty decision. So two decisions were changed. First time I’m seeing that!

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    2. fednik29 April 2018 at 18:22

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    3. Yk29 April 2018 at 18:23

      I know I was just saying that I had never seen that happened before. Never said that the decision was incorrect or strange.

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    4. Yk29 April 2018 at 18:24

      Btw I pointed out that the referee hadn’t gone to review the play because I didn’t see that he had overturned his penalty decision.

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    5. Chefren29 April 2018 at 18:28

      As it was only a question "outside / inside", the decision was taken directly by VAR with their images and videos.
      Given that it was a genuine attempt to play the ball, in a DOGSO scenario, penalty + YC was naturally changed in free kick + RC without any need by Mazzoleni to rewatch.

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    6. Yk29 April 2018 at 18:34

      But wouldn’t he need to rewatch the incident for himself if they were reviewing the type of card the player should receive? i.e penalty + YC/RC for DOGSO which is what I thought had happened.

      But, yes, given the actual incident this was not necessary.

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  14. Mikael W29 April 2018 at 19:32

    Brave and correct RC:DOGSO for BES06 by Aydinus in Galatasaray - Besiktas (64')

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    1. Mikael W29 April 2018 at 21:02

      https://youtu.be/uqp57yg_uMg (perfect delayed whistle)
      http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6imoks (clear deliberate DOGSO)

      Good performance by Aydinus in my opinion. I can see why UEFA heavily pushed him in 2012/13, but that penalty in Kazan...
      He has a very particular style, but a hugely natural and strong personality on the pitch. However he still seemed to use his assistants as if they were "linesman", I suppose he is quite an "old school" referee, at least that was self-evident today.
      It wasn't so hot as Fenerbahce-Besiktas with Palabiyik eg, but a convincing performance in a challenging match by Aydinus.

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    2. Chefren29 April 2018 at 22:15

      Very nice to see his gestures in the video, when explaining his decisions, for sure an "old school" referee, as you described him... and yes, that penalty in Kazak was the end of his dream of FIFA referee at high level. If I'm not wrong, he also failed very often the physical tests. A pity, for sure after Cakir he is nr. 2 in Turkey for experience.

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  15. RayHD29 April 2018 at 20:15

    Jagiellonia Białystok - Wisła Kraków
    Referee: Daniel Stefański (UEFA First Group)
    VAR: Bartosz Frankowski (UEFA Second Group)

    Reckless vs SFP
    https://streamable.com/a9pgn

    VAR invites the referee to rewatch a penalty incident. Penalty awarded for reckless use of arm.
    https://streamable.com/ejlb9

    Deliberate handling? According to guidelines, it's undeliberate, isn't it? Most likely the referee has been impacted by the fact that the hand blocked a really good pass and promising attack.
    https://streamable.com/u0mzu

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    1. Chefren29 April 2018 at 22:13

      1) In my opinion more SFP than reckless challenge. I would have issued RC.

      2) Looks like a quite soft penalty call but surely supportable (opponent exaggerated the effect of the contact but surely a foul existed)

      3) In my opinion not a deliberate handball, but this argument is more than controversial, I should tell you what happened today in serie A... it will be impossible to find consistency about handballs.

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    2. Stake29 April 2018 at 22:31

      1) Clear SFP, clearly endangering the safety of the opponent. Red card for me.

      2) Looks soft indeed, but he must not use his arms in that way. Correct VAR intervention and correct penalty for me.

      3) For me not a deliberate handball, it's actually a normal position for the arm while making a tackle. As Chefren stated, impossible to find consistency regarding handballs.

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    3. Philipp S30 April 2018 at 00:26

      1) For me rather no SFP. Yes, the safety is endangered, but that is mainly the opponent's own fault. The white player is in possession of the ball, plays it, while it is completely free and suddenly the yellow/red player throws himself into his path. I find it difficult to blame the white player here, although I understand how you come to the conclusion SFP.
      2) Not sure, whether VAR would have intervened in Germany... - but it is OK/correct to do it
      3) I agree, that it is not clear - both decisions could be supported

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    4. VG1 May 2018 at 00:07

      3: The football world, media and players want this to be called. Nobody will complain if you call handling for those situations.

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  16. iPing29 April 2018 at 21:02

    I do not think it's fair to have Çakır handling again a return-leg with Real. This is only matter to not get any suspicious on this match. By the way, Çakır regulary ref Real Madrid during a second-leg. The UEFA appointment is very very strange. I do not speak about his performance as referee.

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    1. Soham29 April 2018 at 21:15

      Because he's a really good referee and can be appointed to any team and any stadium in a match of any atmosphere and that's why he automatically becomes a candidate for all these big games!!

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    2. Chefren29 April 2018 at 21:58

      The previous appointment, Juventus - Real Madrid, was a first leg.

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  17. Mikael W29 April 2018 at 21:18

    Lyon and Wolfsburg (expectedly) won their Women's Champions League Semifinals this afternoon, so I would expect Adamkova for the Final in Kiev, outside bet for Mularczyk IMO.

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  18. Unknown29 April 2018 at 22:39

    Hi everybody
    I think Çakır will get EL final

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    1. Chefren29 April 2018 at 23:24

      Possible, as option. More than deserved.
      As it was already reported on this blog, Cakir has only CL and Club World Cup finals, given his impressive palmares, adding another final would be a deserved step... so far I described him as "the man of semifinals". He has by far more semifinals than finals in his career ;)

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    2. Mikael W29 April 2018 at 23:54

      He is battling Frank De Bleeckere for that crown :-)

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    3. Peter29 April 2018 at 23:55

      I also have my doubts concerning Mazic and Skomina for the finals considering that both are from the Balkans and from rather small countries who can handle each final. I know this shouldn't be an argument but I expect UEFA to appoint a referee from a bigger nation for one of the two finals - maybe someone like Orsato in the Europa League ...

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    4. petschovschi30 April 2018 at 07:33

      Cakir should whistle every game in european competitions according to some opinions...

      Cakir is born in 1976. He still have 3,5 years of activity (maybe even 4,5 if he will go in Qatar 2022, which is not out of question).

      There are 25 Elite referees in Europe. But, after 8 years as chief of european refereeing, Collina has only 5-6 referees who are capable to whistle any game. The rest of them are Elite only on paper.

      EL final should be given to Mazic or Rocchi, both 45 years old.

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    5. Sale30 April 2018 at 08:21

      Peter, what kind of an argument is this, almost nationalistic. It's not the "size" of a nation that matters, it's the quality of a referees that matters or at least should matter. Please ...

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    6. Soham30 April 2018 at 08:33

      Yes Sale, in an ideal world, only performance and quality should matter... But unfortunately the world isn't ideal in football politics size of the country, importance of the association all matters a lot... Of course not saying it will make a difference for Skomina of Mazic but overall it's an ugly truth in the world of football!!

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    7. Sale30 April 2018 at 08:40

      I'm aware of that, but he is talking about "small countries from the Balkans". Sorry, that sounds nationalistic. And I'm not saying that just because I'm from one of the countries mentioned.

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    8. Soham30 April 2018 at 09:03

      I don't think for either Skomina or Mazic, the size of their countries will be important... It ends up mattering more in the lower categories in Europe, I think!!

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    9. HUSSAIN30 April 2018 at 09:26

      In your opinions who will be the fly star resferee in turkey i think halil umut meler is the choosen one and he still young 32 years

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    10. Soham30 April 2018 at 09:35

      Ali Palabiyik? Alper Ulusoy?

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    11. Sale30 April 2018 at 09:52

      It's logical that the quality of national competitions is lower in smaller countries and that the odds for a referee from such countries becoming a top international referee are generally lower than in "big football nations". But it is a general rule which has quite a few positive exceptions, including Mazic and Skomina. I agree with your view about lower categories and I think we agree that mentioning "Balkans" has nothing to do with this topic.

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    12. Soham30 April 2018 at 09:57

      Yes I agree... Other Spain, England, Germany, Italy and maybe France literally all other countries are 'small' in context of their leagues and probability of a referee making it big!!

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    13. HUSSAIN30 April 2018 at 09:58

      Both of them are 38 years old with cakir now 42 and he have 3 or 4 years they will be 42 years when halil umut meler will be 35 and it's the age of cakir when he become elite and started his fantastic career so he can have ( meler) good uefa and fifa career
      Matue lahoz will be roma-liverpool referee

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    14. Peter30 April 2018 at 10:56

      @Sale: I didn't mean that referees from Serbia, Slovenia or "the Balkans" in common are "too meaningless" to get a final appointment, I just had the idea that UEFA could try to consider one referee from a "smaller" country and one from a "bigger" one as happened last year with Brych in the Champions League (as well as several years before).

      Given that Mazic and Skomina are the top favourites for the Champions League this year but the Serbian reached the (former) age-limit of 45 last month whereas the latter has some more time and handled the Europa League final only last year, I had the feeling that Mazic could get the Champions League final and Skomina retained (this year).

      I would be glad to see them both in this year's finals but I have the feeling that UEFA could appoint a referee from Italy for the Europa League final and keep Skomina for an upcoming Champions League final. Today's announcement for a Champions League semifinal seems to back my thoughts ...

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  19. Chefren30 April 2018 at 09:51

    Today FIFA should give the final and official announcement about VAR selection for Russia 2018.

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    1. Chefren30 April 2018 at 09:51

      Orsato, Irrati and Valeri are reported to be sure.

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  20. Ref Fot30 April 2018 at 09:51

    Italian newspapers write about Skomina as favourite to get Roma Liverpool.

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  21. Referee 1230 April 2018 at 10:12

    Damir Skomina, confirmed by Slovenian FA. I have no idea what to think now.

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    1. Izo30 April 2018 at 10:14

      Mazic will get the final?

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    2. Referee 1230 April 2018 at 10:16

      I just don't think so. As it is written on Slovenian FA's web this is Skomina's seventh semi-finals in UEFA's club competitions, fourth in Champions League. Mažić has three or four EL semi-finals and not a single match in CL knock-out faze this season.

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    3. Sale30 April 2018 at 10:17

      Ok, if Collina is really "planning" Rocchi for the final, what will he do if Roma overturn the result?

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    4. Izo30 April 2018 at 10:18

      It looks like Skomina will need to wait one more year. Of course anything could happen.

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    5. Referee 1230 April 2018 at 10:19

      I think 2016 could be repeted. Just like Clattenburg, Skomina in semi-final and final both. But it is very risky to appoint referee that you are planning for final in semi-final. Just one crucial mistake and he is out.

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    6. Soham30 April 2018 at 10:19

      Maybe Mazic in CL final and Rocchi in EL final?

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  22. Izo30 April 2018 at 10:13

    Official on Slovenian football site that Skomina is appointed for Roma vs Liverpool

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    1. Soham30 April 2018 at 10:18

      Now the appointment of the fin gets tricky and becomes open to a lot of speculations!

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  23. Soham30 April 2018 at 10:20

    Skomina and Italian teams love story continues :D Skomina has refereed all of Juventus, Roma, Napoli and Lazio this season in Europe :D

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    1. Mlacko30 April 2018 at 10:22

      I told you that Mazic wont get CL this week, probably EL coz he had 2 matchs in 5 days in our league..

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  24. Philip Zeal Chebunet30 April 2018 at 11:30

    Love this group!

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  25. Philip Zeal Chebunet30 April 2018 at 11:32

    Uefa Favourites
    1. Kuipers
    2. Cuynet
    3. Rocchi
    4. Skomina
    5. Mazic
    6. Lahoz
    7.

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  26. Philip Zeal Chebunet30 April 2018 at 11:42

    8. Brych

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    1. Soham30 April 2018 at 11:45

      Brych has to be in top 3... And who is 7?? Marciniak??

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  27. Unknown30 April 2018 at 19:01

    China offers Cuneyt Cakir astronomically!.. He can transfer like Clattenburg.. http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/sporarena/dev-transfer-cuneyt-cakir-40820866

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    1. Soham30 April 2018 at 19:43

      They are saying that Cakir has reportedly accepted the deal... That means he will quit after the World Cup?? :o

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    2. Teo1 May 2018 at 17:52

      If this is going to happen, in short time UEFA could loose all the best refs going to Far or Near East, because there they would earn much more money! Unfortunately, everything is for sell nowadays. UEFA has to find the way to keep its' best refs!

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    3. Chefren1 May 2018 at 18:16

      To be honest, given the very high fees that UEFA Elite referees get by officiating games at high level, I wouldn't see this big difference with China. But maybe I'm too naive there, and I'm not in the condition to "ask for more"... :)
      Just receiving what UEFA Elite referees get, would mean "China" for me :P

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    4. VG1 May 2018 at 20:01

      Considering what the players get per game and season the refs are super underpaid at that level.

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  28. Marco Neri1 May 2018 at 20:52

    An early goal from Bayern makes the game even more interesting! Let’s see what will be like!

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  29. George1 May 2018 at 20:58

    In 12 minutes, Cristiano Ronald has already fallen too easily twice outside the penalty area. If this trend keeps going, I expect a YC for simulation.

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  30. Brendon Rogers1 May 2018 at 21:04

    16th min. Nice No PK call in in Madrid's PA.

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    1. Teo1 May 2018 at 21:08

      Nice for Real, indeeed. :-)

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    2. Soham1 May 2018 at 21:09

      Correct call by Cüneyt Çakir 😎

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    3. Steve Smith1 May 2018 at 21:15

      Nice for Real, in fact. It's PK. Ramos hits Lewandowski.

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    4. Mlacko1 May 2018 at 21:17

      Correct call for No PK.

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    5. Teo1 May 2018 at 21:24

      No good replays. Very strange. I don't know how can you be so sure - there was no appropriate angle. In any case, if not the penalty, then it was simulation and therefore YC.

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    6. Mlacko1 May 2018 at 21:32

      https://streamable.com/n9m4v

      No penalty for me. Correct call.

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    7. Soham1 May 2018 at 21:36

      No penalty for me as well + No YC for simulation as well... Play on perfect decision!!

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  31. Raymus1 May 2018 at 21:21

    Interesting: Cakir is wearing a ring. As amateur referees, we are always told to be role models and are forbidden to wear wedding rings and other jewelry, even if our risk of injuring ourselfs because of jewelry is close to none.

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    1. Soham1 May 2018 at 21:24

      I remember Kuipers doing the same once... It was discussed in the earlier blog... Maybe some kind of lucky charm for refs?? But I agree as amateur refs we are always asked to avoid metal items and jewellery!!

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    2. Luc Bastien1 May 2018 at 21:31

      It is just the ring with the whistle. I don't think elite refs will be doing that : ) https://goo.gl/images/drSkNE

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    3. referee1 May 2018 at 22:16

      Some federations has made a change in the laws of the game so referees(and players) are allowed to have a ring on(if its flat). In sweden that rule is applied.

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  32. Izo1 May 2018 at 21:32

    Marcelo hand blocking the ball?

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  33. Soham1 May 2018 at 21:33

    45+1' : Penalty appeal for handball by Bayern Munich... Nothing from Çakir... 50-50 situation!!

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    1. Teo1 May 2018 at 21:34

      Yeah, sure...

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    2. Soham1 May 2018 at 21:40

      The commentator says it's a hometown decision... But it's 50-50... Maybe more pro-penalty than no penalty... I would've whistled it!!

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    3. "Dynamic Personality"???1 May 2018 at 21:47

      Commentators here uttered similar words. To the evente of referees being influenced by the setting.

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  34. Quilava1 May 2018 at 21:33

    PK for handball missed on last minute?

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    1. "Dynamic Personality"???1 May 2018 at 21:46

      Yet another situation in which I am left to question the use/need for AAR's. What exactly are they there to do?

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  36. Teo1 May 2018 at 21:33

    Has to be another "correct" call by Cakir not to give PK for handling in 46'.

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  37. Marco Neri1 May 2018 at 21:34

    Penalty appeal from Bayern for a handball. I didn’t see any replay but it looked punishable. I don’t know if Marcelo was in/outside

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  38. Izo1 May 2018 at 21:34

    It was inside of the box.

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  39. superstar01101 May 2018 at 21:35

    It is absolutely handball, but not sure is it inside or outside the box.

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  40. Steve Smith1 May 2018 at 21:36

    This is shaping up to be quite a bad night for Çakir. Two penalty kicks missed now, the second one (Marcelo) being quite blatant. Unfortunately, this is already a repeat of last year's QF second leg between these teams.

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    1. Mlacko1 May 2018 at 21:37

      First one wasnt even a penalty.

      https://streamable.com/n9m4v

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    2. Luc Bastien1 May 2018 at 21:40

      NO PK here.

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    3. Soham1 May 2018 at 21:41

      First one is never a PK... 2nd one probably yes!!

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    4. Steve Smith1 May 2018 at 21:42

      PK! Ramos hits Lewandowski's non-kicking foot.

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    5. "Dynamic Personality"???1 May 2018 at 21:44

      No replays are being shown here on any play that could possibly go against Madrid. So I can't really comment on the situation.

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    6. Soham1 May 2018 at 21:46

      Replays shown here... Clear deliberate handball... Not 50-50 as I thought earlier... Crucial mistake not to award the penalty

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  41. RayHD1 May 2018 at 21:36

    Cakir was very good, but that handball. Clearly punishable one. Penalty should've been awarded...

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    1. Teo1 May 2018 at 21:45

      At least second PK "missed" in favor of Real in those 2 matches! 2 blatant penalties, one gift from Kuipers, the other from Cakir. It really makes me seek!

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    2. Soham1 May 2018 at 21:48

      Chiqui backed Kuipers with all penalty calls though :)

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    3. Teo1 May 2018 at 21:57

      So do you, Soham. So do you... :-)

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    4. Soham1 May 2018 at 22:11

      Since I won't be 100% objective I would refrain from assessing him :) I maintain some ethics, you see :)

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  42. "Dynamic Personality"???1 May 2018 at 21:36

    45+
    I'm strongly leaning towards that being a Have Ball and thus a penalty in favor of Bayern. Marcelo's arm is quite open and away from his body. Here definitely enlarging his body surface. 3 sets of eyes on that play. And not one saw it as punishable. I think they missed that one. Unfortunately it's yet another call that goes in Real's favor.

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  43. George1 May 2018 at 21:36

    For me, deliberate handball (opens the hand and the movement is arm towards ball). I don't know if it was outside or inside the penalty area.

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  44. Keyser Soze1 May 2018 at 21:42

    From this replay it looks like Marcelo was at the edge, inside of the penalty area. Clear penalty for me.

    https://www.clippituser.tv/c/zkyldr

    Also not sure if mentioned, but the ball hit Ramos hand right before Kimmich's goal.

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  45. Paddy1 May 2018 at 21:42

    Definitely deliberate handball... if inside a clear mistake, if outside it is ok with play on

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  46. "Dynamic Personality"???1 May 2018 at 21:43

    Not sure if it's just the feed that I'm watching. But I've noticed that any questionable plays that would go against Madrid. Repairs are not being shown. So I can't comment on Lewandowski's appeal for a PK. Because no replay was ever shown here.

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  47. Chefren1 May 2018 at 21:45

    Punishable handball.
    But impossible to say whether inside or outside the box.
    VAR stuff.
    In case of call, it would have been a drama to decide whether free kick or penalty.

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    1. Soham1 May 2018 at 21:47

      The fact that Cakir didn't call makes it a mistake anyway :(

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    2. Chefren1 May 2018 at 21:49

      Football at top level can't go on without VAR.
      That's all.

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    3. Mlacko1 May 2018 at 21:50

      Thats why we need VAR in KO stages..

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    4. "Dynamic Personality"???1 May 2018 at 21:52

      Not really any drama as you say. Quite a few angles show that it was inside.

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    5. Luc Bastien1 May 2018 at 21:53

      Great comment Already There are a lot of tech integration to the beautiful game for the teams as well. hand pads. EPTS live data tracking etc. But I am an old scholler seeking for mistakes. :). Kupiers and Cakir and all the refs are blood and bones. Like players...

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    6. Steve Smith1 May 2018 at 21:56

      This one is clearly inside.

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    7. Steve Smith1 May 2018 at 22:05

      So, crucial mistake.

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    8. "Dynamic Personality"???1 May 2018 at 22:05

      You're right. Players should still wear heavy cloth uniforms and thick brown leather boots. And they should still be kicking those old brown balls that absorbed water and became waterlogged. And of course referees should still be trotting around in black sport coats and wearing caps. I mean why keep up with modern times and all of its advances when we can continue to live in the Stone Age.

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  48. George1 May 2018 at 21:48

    With the replay now shown on Antena 3, it was inside the penalty area. Officially, crucial mistake by Çakir.

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  49. "Dynamic Personality"???1 May 2018 at 21:49

    Well all is back to normal. Work Real Madrid winning and Bayern killing their own chances.

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  50. Mlacko1 May 2018 at 21:51

    Correct play on in 49' !!

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  51. Mlacko1 May 2018 at 21:54

    Correct no PK for Bayern, missed foul on Ramos?

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    1. Marco Neri1 May 2018 at 21:56

      Lewandoski hits the ball, Ramos doesn’t.

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    2. Mlacko1 May 2018 at 22:00

      Ramos got the ball, Lewandowski hitted Ramos..

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    3. Marco Neri1 May 2018 at 22:08

      Please tell me when Ramos touches the ball...
      https://twitter.com/zona_blaugrana/status/991408359860588546?s=21

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    4. Soham1 May 2018 at 22:10

      Romas never got the ball... That's the 2nd missed penalty by Çakir... Champions league needs VAR to help the referees

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    5. Mikael W1 May 2018 at 22:14

      Agreed he doesn't play the ball, but that is a natural, rather than an irregular, contact IMO.

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    6. Soham1 May 2018 at 22:22

      I differ on this slightly :/ That's a punishable foul for me

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  52. Marco Neri1 May 2018 at 21:55

    For me another penalty missed by Cakir at 51’. Ramos tries to hit the ball but Lewandowski anticipates him.

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    2. Luc Bastien1 May 2018 at 21:56

      A bit far-fetched.

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    3. Marco Neri1 May 2018 at 21:57

      The awkward thing here is that the refs conceded a Corner kick. Another case where VAR could’ve intervened.

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    4. Steve Smith1 May 2018 at 21:59

      It seems a correct call this time. Ramos strikes the ball.

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    5. Ref_17071 May 2018 at 22:00

      In my opinion, a correct decision by Cakir. It was not the contact that made Lewandowski fall to the ground. No penalty is fine.

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    6. Soham1 May 2018 at 22:07

      Ramos went for the ball, never touched it as replays suggest and pushes Lewandowski... I'm afraid it might be a missed penalty!!

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    7. Mikael W1 May 2018 at 22:11

      I don't think that the contact from Ramos was really enough to cause a fall, I suspect he was falling anyway.

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    8. Teo1 May 2018 at 22:15

      Ramos missed the ball and fell on Lewa (litterally laid down on him). No intention, but clear foul.
      I don't know who is killing Bayern more: they themselves by incredible mistakes or the referees, also by incredible mistakes at this level!

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    9. Soham1 May 2018 at 22:21

      @Mikael That push is a clear foul like Benatia's one was in Madrid... I backed Oliver with that call and on consistency grounds my view is that it is a penalty!!

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  53. Robbie821 May 2018 at 21:59

    Clear dissent from Ramos throwing the ball to the ground. Nothing from Cakir.

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    1. "Dynamic Personality"???1 May 2018 at 22:07

      Only Turpin and Brych have shown this season to be able to properly handle and punish Dissent.

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    2. Soham1 May 2018 at 22:09

      Over officious attitude is not necessary... Cakir has a proper standing of player emotions... Unless it's absolutely blatantly out of order it's fair enough to ignore!!

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    3. "Dynamic Personality"???1 May 2018 at 22:14

      Thiago last week?

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    4. Luc Bastien1 May 2018 at 22:14

      Common sense drives us to finish the games 11vs11 that makes the game beautiful. Being lenient with some of the dissent decisions is more than fine. Great insight Soham.

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    5. Soham1 May 2018 at 22:18

      @Luc Absolutely... The game is a lot more than solely the LOTG... There is always the Law 18 - Common sense... Those who master it are the most successful referees!!

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    6. "Dynamic Personality"???1 May 2018 at 22:21

      Going out of your way to keep 22 players on the pitch actually goes against the spirit of the game. The Law's of the Game being part of that spirit provides guidelines to ensure that matches are played in a safe and happ manner. If not then, what's the need of having Law's?

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    7. "Dynamic Personality"???1 May 2018 at 22:22

      *fair

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    8. Mikael W1 May 2018 at 22:23

      Agreed, but what about the local referee that correctly issues YC for dissent, and get the response "but in Champions League...".
      I understand Kuipers' approach of totally ignoring it for it worked on the night, but not every referee in the world enters the pitch with such a charisma to do that...

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  54. Andrasch Neunert1 May 2018 at 22:05

    I am an old Bayern-Supporter. But to be honest - for me a clear handball inside the box Cakir could not sea but his AAR must have noticed that. But no clear PK-situation so far IMO.

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    1. Steve Smith1 May 2018 at 22:13

      Çakir is to blame too. Handball is so so clear that he has to spot it. Crucial mistake then.

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  55. Chefren1 May 2018 at 22:14

    As this post is reaching the maximum of comments allowed, I'm going to publish a new one, where you will continue the discussion.
    Thank you for the great participation, as always.
    For tomorrow semifinal, maybe it will be a wise thing to open a new discussion before the start of the game. :)

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  56. Marco Neri1 May 2018 at 22:17

    I’d like to highlight the behaviour by Bayern players. After last year, after the penalty missed in the first leg, today other two penalties missed and they never complained. Some other players should learn from their attitude

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    1. Soham1 May 2018 at 22:19

      Really nice point... But last year they weren't so considerate to Viktor Kassai... He was severely insulted with lots of harsh words... Hopefully they don't react like that after today!!

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    2. Luc Bastien1 May 2018 at 22:22

      Did you see them how they reacted to the dropped ball.

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  57. VG1 May 2018 at 22:19

    Varane clear handling minute 75. He pretended he was injured. I am very sure it hit his outstretched arm. Hope I am wrong.

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  58. Teo1 May 2018 at 22:21

    Missed clear YC for James Rodriguez.

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