Thursday, 3 May 2018

Europa League 2017/18 - Semifinals - Referee Appointments (II)

Italian Gianluca Rocchi and Russian Sergey Karasev have been assigned to EL semifinals, second legs. 
03.05.2018, 21:05 CET
Estadio Metropolitano, Madrid (ESP)
Club Atlético de Madrid - Arsenal FC
Referee: Gianluca Rocchi (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Elenito Di Liberatore (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mauro Tonolini (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
4th Official: Alessandro Costanzo (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jaap Uilenberg (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Wolfgang Thierrichter (AUS)

03.05.2018, 21:05 CET
Stadion Salzburg, Salzburg (AUT)
FC Salzburg - Olympique de Marseille 
Referee: Sergey Karasev (RUS)
Assistant Referee 1: Anton Averyanov (RUS)
Assistant Referee 2: Tikhon Kalugin (RUS)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Sergey Lapochkin (RUS)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Sergei Ivanov (RUS)
Fourth Official: Igor Demeshko (RUS)
UEFA Referee Observer: Eugen Strigel (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Jim Stjerne Hansen (DEN)
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  1. RikB1 May 2018 at 10:31

    I suppose that this means that in case of a Liverpool-xx final Rocchi will be in charge.
    That would mean that Skomina is the reserve. (Or some surprise like Kuipers, Brych)

    It seems quite clear now that Mazic will be in charge of the EL-final.

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    1. Soham1 May 2018 at 10:43

      Brych or Kuipers as FO do you mean, Ray?

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  2. Quilava1 May 2018 at 10:32

    Interesting. Last year also both Rocchi and Karásev were in charge of UEL semifinals, but now they are appointed for 2nd leg.

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  3. Soham1 May 2018 at 10:40

    I like this appointment of Karasev before the World Cup... Now Mazic for CL final then??

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  4. Unknown1 May 2018 at 11:00


    Now I hope Mazic in Kiev and Collum, Makkelie or
    Marciniak in Lyon.

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    1. "Dynamic Personality"???2 May 2018 at 00:38

      Yes. No. No. and No. Turpin over those 3

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    2. Unknown3 May 2018 at 20:43

      Turpin can be in CL but not in EL because UEFA
      never appoints one referee of the country in
      which the final is played.

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  5. petschovschi1 May 2018 at 11:26

    I will still believe Mazic will whistle CL final (with Skomina as 4th official).
    I thought Rocchi was planned for EL final but I see he will whistle (only) a SF. In this case I will switch Rocchi/Orsato in my yesterday predictions. In this moment I believe Orsato will be the referee of EL final.

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    1. Soham1 May 2018 at 12:42

      Skomina was FO to Rizzoli in 2013 CL Final... Surely not another one!

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    2. petschovschi1 May 2018 at 13:09

      I asked you to ignore my posts but it seems you are not capable to do that, you always have something to say. Anyway, Skomina as 4th official was the less important detail from my post...

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    3. Soham1 May 2018 at 13:26

      Posting in the blog means you're putting up your views in the public domain and that will recieve counter views whether you like it or not!!

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  6. Teo1 May 2018 at 11:53

    Surprised to see Rocchi in semifinal. This now opens the room for speculations. Mazic should be in one of the finals, but who is the other one? I wouldn't exclude Mateu if no Spanish team in one of the finals. Also, Marciniak is there (if the rummours are true, he was planned for this week, but...), Makkelie, too (he had very good season). We shouldn't still exclude Skomina and Rocchi for Cl final... In case of Rocchi's excellent performance and Roma's defeat, Rocchi is in "the game". Will be very interesting to see which clubs will go to the finals and I believe that after that will be decided where wuold Mazic go, and who will get other final (I still believe that Skomina and Mazic were originally planned for last years finals, but Brych, thanks to Bayern's loss, got CL as a reward for his whole carrier, because his last year was more than average).

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    1. petschovschi1 May 2018 at 12:01

      Two comments:

      - I think the referees for finals are already chosen. It can't be a last moment decision (EL final is on 16.05)

      - I think names like Marciniak, Mateu Lahoz or Makkelie are ruled out for final because of obvious mistakes in their last games. A final should be a reward for a good performance.

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    2. George1 May 2018 at 12:59

      While I agree with the second comment as I think that's what should happen, I have my doubts that's the reality. It was reported here that Marciniak was planned for a SF but later stepped down because of an injury. If that was the case (and given that Ray was the source, I tend to believe it), then Makkelie is the only one I would rule out given it is his first year as Elite and I hope lessons have been learnt with Oliver.

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    3. RayHD1 May 2018 at 17:52

      Marciniak was the source, he gave an interview to one of the Polish radio stations. And the info about a semi-final was provided earlier by the Polish FA itself. :)

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  7. Ref_17071 May 2018 at 11:56

    Rocchi in front of Jaap Uilenberg could mean something. I know, important matches need important observers, however, I feel that there is something behind this appointment...

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  8. Chefren1 May 2018 at 11:56

    My idea is still the same. I think Skomina stays as candidate for CL final, while Mazic for EL. I think everything will be decided by Skomina performance in Rome, but I strongly hope he will have not problems. To be honest, I don't see any other name.

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    1. Soham1 May 2018 at 12:42

      +1

      Rocchi started the season with a final so shouldn't be getting another in the same season!

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  9. Anonymous1 May 2018 at 12:43

    The Spanish referees is too long that they are out of the games, if there will be a final without Spanish teams this final will be of Lahoz.
    You will see that I'm not mistaken

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    1. Chefren1 May 2018 at 13:10

      The crucial mistake in Manchester City - Liverpool is definitely too much relevant, to get a final, if you ask me.

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    2. petschovschi1 May 2018 at 13:31

      Italy- Sweden was also during this season...

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  10. zoran 791 May 2018 at 12:58

    FINAL:
    EL Cunejt Cakir (TUR)
    CL Gianluca Rocchi (ITA)

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    1. Teo1 May 2018 at 13:07

      Mazic out again for semifinals/finals, 4th year in a row??? Then, how to explain that he is among European top 10 refs for years and that he will be in Russia? I am 100% convinced that Mazic will be in one of the finals - all his performances in last 2 years would justify that!

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    2. Unknown1 May 2018 at 13:45


      Mazic must be in Kiev.

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    3. referee observer1 May 2018 at 14:25

      Mazic goec to the WC because he is PLC's golden boy. Always untouchable.

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    4. Jackson2 May 2018 at 21:14

      I agree with Zoran's prediction.

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    5. Unknown3 May 2018 at 20:44


      Çakir after Madrid cannot be in Kiev.

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  11. Chefren1 May 2018 at 13:52

    Many people are convinced about Mazic in Kyiv, well, I want to open a big poll about that, but in my opinion it is better to wait for this week's performances...

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    1. petschovschi1 May 2018 at 14:30

      Mazic was an important referee in last (many) years, he whistled a lot of important (and difficult) games. Mazic was one of most reliable referees in european competitions, hardly remember a mistake of Mazic.

      You can't compare Mazic with Rocchi in terms of palmares. Honestly, it would be outrageous to put Rocchi in front of Mazic. On the other hand, Rocchi fully deserved EL final. maybe Rocchi deserves also a CL final but not in front of Mazic.

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    2. Teo1 May 2018 at 14:41

      We should wait for the other performances and to see which clubs will be in finals.

      But, there is one important issue: from European refs that are going to Russia, we saw/will see 7 in semifinals + Collum. Other three names are Mazic, Marciniak and Mateu. Marciniak had one really bad evening, and Mateu very crucial mistake in City-Liverpool. Mazic with no important mistake whatsoever in KO stage. So, he should be sure for one of the final. There are only 3 candidates for Cl final: Mazic, Skomina and Rocchi if Roma is out (but he already had Super cup final this year). For EL final, besides Mazic, Rocchi and Marciniak, you can appoint even Cakir.
      Mazic's performances last 2 years absolutely justify that he should get one of finals. There are lot of arguments to see him somewhere. Personally, I would save Skomina for next year's Cl final - he is still young and UEFA doesn't need another Clattenburg! He could easily loose his motivation if he would be year-to-year in two finals. Also, the big issue is who to get CL final next year?!

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  12. pino1 May 2018 at 14:01

    I strongly believe that, if Rome is eliminated and Rocchi’s performance is good/very good/excellent, the latter will be more than a serious candidate for the CL final.
    On the other hand, Mazic would get the EL final.

    But, obviously, all the scenarios are open...

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  13. Andrasch Neunert1 May 2018 at 15:22

    2 months ago I wrote that Skomina and Mazic could BOTH get a final and deserve it - Mazic at the end of his career the CL-final - kept safe by appointing him in EL-KnockOut-matches before and vice-versa Skomina for EL-final and CL-final in 1 or 2 years. Makes sense IMO. And when I am not totally misinformed, for WC-final the things are much more open then most of the European-centrist arguments here ...:
    So far there is only Cakir a definite candidate for a final with Germany and any European team, Brych for two other European or 2 other than European teams if Germany does not reach the halffinal, Pitana and Ricci in the same logical way for Conmebol. But for Conmebol-UEFA final Faghani, Ramos, Geiger as 1st options. And if Gassama wins back the trust he got til last summer who knows...
    The big question without answer is still the number of main referees from Africa, Asia and from Concacaf. Many rumours but no clear information. Does anyone here know more than Busaccas cryptic predictions about a number "not so far away from last WC?"

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    1. Rolbest1 May 2018 at 16:04

      You forgot Irmatov among WC final candidates..

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    2. usaref1 May 2018 at 16:04

      The big question is "who will not screw up with VAR?" There WILL be VAR controversies throughout the tournament. FIFA will look toward a crew that it trust with VR for the Final.

      Pitana-Vigliano is the obvious answer if a CONMEBOL referee can do it (Ricci-Sampaio, too, but I feel to a lesser exent). Kuipers-Makkelie or Brych-Zwayer or Rocchi-Orsato are all options for a UEFA crew.

      If it has to be a crew from a third continent, Geiger-Marrufo will by far be the favorites.

      VAR is still getting screwed up regularly in nations that have it. It's a hard thing to get right. The notion that someone like Gassama or Irmatov or Faghani or even Ramos will master it for a tournament and be trusted with it for the Final is not one that I would bet on. I think your Final referee is someone with intimate knowledge with VAR (which is one reason, frankly, why I think Cakir is destined for a QF/SF but not the Final).

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    3. Andrasch Neunert1 May 2018 at 17:57

      I think we should not focus too much on the VARquestion when we discuss the possible names of refs for the final. The teams can be mixed as long as all speak English/Spanish well Dont forget there are even 3 assistants together with one VAR being responsible . So mixed teams will be the normal case - and refs have good reason to train their English...
      Irmatov: You might be right but I am not convinced. As far as I know he is in the 2nd row cause he failed some of the many chances he got - losing his clear line esp. in big games in difficult situations.

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    4. usaref1 May 2018 at 18:13

      The teams can be mixed. And they will be mixed. And there will be a lot of problems with VAR throughout the tournament.

      My point isn't that it must be a pair of country-mates for the Final. There could be mixing and matching. For example, I could see Kuipers doing the final with Geiger as his VAR.

      My point is that those who already have good familiarity with VARs are less likely to screw it up. And FIFA will look toward those officials when they have to make sure VAR succeeds in the biggest match it will ever be used in. So the officials listed above will naturally have a leg-up on their competition.

      By my estimates, Geiger has worked with VAR in about 50 matches now. I'm sure Rocchi, Brych and Marciniak have numbers approaching that figure. Do you think FIFA is more likely to turn toward someone with 40-50 matches of experience with the new technology or someone with 4-5 matches?

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    5. Philipp S3 May 2018 at 21:08

      Germany has only introduced VAR at the start of this season, so Brych has 16 (15BL + 1CWC) matches experiences, if I am not missing something. And I think that is similar for Rocchi and Marciniak.
      So Geiger should actually be clearly ahead of everyone.

      The experience will play a certain role in the appointments, but more important should be how the performance (including VAR cooperation) is in the first 1-2 matches of each referee.

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    7. usaref3 May 2018 at 21:35

      Well, each WC referee also went to a tournament that used VAR last year, right? So there are a few extra games to add on to any domestic totals. And to be clear, I'm counting participation in any role--CR, VAR, VAR1, AVAR, etc.

      Stopping to think about it, Geiger is likely closer to 40 right now. He has 22 domestic MLS matches. Then he had 4 matches at Confed Cup, 3 at 2017 CWC and 3(?) at 2016 CWC. That's 32. When you add some of the experimental and live trial matches he's been involved in, he's got to be in the low 40s. But even with that lower number, Geiger will likely be ahead of every on-field referee.

      How many matches have Makkelie and Zwayer been involved in? Those numbers must be pretty high.

      And I totally agree that performance will matter most. My theory is that experience is going to lead to better performance.

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    8. Philipp S3 May 2018 at 21:52

      I think for Brych the number won't get much higher, because he was only 3 times VAR in BL and only participated in the CWC last year.
      Zwayer has 25-30 matches with all roles combined - 12 BL CR + 6 BL VAR + 7 U20 VAR + 3 CC (A)VAR

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  14. Gitzlo1 May 2018 at 18:31

    Karasev again in Salzburg where he already was in February (Salzburg-Real Sociedad). A little bit strange for my taste.

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    1. petschovschi1 May 2018 at 18:43

      Brych was in Liverpool two times in 20 days: Liverpool- Manchester City (QF) and Liverpool- Roma (SF). Can you tell us how was your taste :) ?

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    2. Chefren1 May 2018 at 18:45

      BTW let's remember that Marciniak was planned for a SF second leg. Of course we can't know, but one of those names can be a replacement...

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    3. Soham1 May 2018 at 19:02

      I think Karasev might be the replacement!!

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    4. Mlacko1 May 2018 at 19:58

      Karasev is probably replacement for Marciniak..

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    5. Teo1 May 2018 at 20:44

      What happened with Marciniak? Is he injured and needed a replacement?

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    6. Chefren1 May 2018 at 20:45

      Yes. He had been appointed by committee for a second leg in semifinals (unknown whether CL or EL). But he renounced due to an injury. He said that he didn't want to risk due to WC, otherwise he would have handled the game.

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  15. Philip Zeal Chebunet2 May 2018 at 11:36

    Rochhi is top class ref

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  16. Quilava3 May 2018 at 10:54

    OT:

    This happened in Beijing Guoan-Guangzhou Evergrande of Chinese Super League (FIFA referee)

    0-2 ahead Guangzhou in 88th minute, referee whistles PK + RC for DOGSO to defender Deng Hangwen for this challenge on Cédric Bakambu. Beijing Guoan finally managed to draw on the very last minute

    Your thoughts? For me this is a blatant mistake, there's no foul at all.

    https://streamable.com/pj79n

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    1. Quilava3 May 2018 at 11:20

      Sorry, finally watched the entire sequence and there's no straight red card, it was 2nd YC.

      Anyway, that penalty decision...

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    2. Quilava3 May 2018 at 11:27

      In addition, Jonas Eriksson and Tony Chapron (!) will referee a CSL game this weekend because of suspects of match-fixing on local referees.

      Interesting "chance" for Chapron after his 6-month ban, at least that shameful Nantes-PSG won't be his last game.

      Link: http://m.thesundaily.my/node/492335

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    3. Nole3 May 2018 at 14:09

      Shocking mistake. There is not even a touch - defender played the ball.

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  17. RayHD3 May 2018 at 20:21

    UEFA UNDER-17 CHAMPIONSHIP

    4 May 2018

    Group A | 14:00 CET - Burton upon Trent (St. George's Park Stadium)
    ITALY - SWITZERLAND
    Referee: Zbyněk Proske (CZE)
    Assistant Referee 1: Robert Steinacher (AUT)
    Assistant Referee 2: Georgi Doynov (BUL)
    Fourth Official: Robert Hennessy (IRL)
    UEFA Referee Observer: Vlado Svilokos (CRO)
    UEFA Delegate: Denis Bastari (ALB)

    Group B | 14:00 CET - Walsall (Banks's Stadium)
    PORTUGAL - NORWAY
    Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
    Assistant Referee 1: Rza Məmmədov (AZE)
    Assistant Referee 2: Dan Petur Pauli Højgaard (FRO)
    Fourth Official: Keith Kennedy (NIR)
    UEFA Referee Observer: David Elleray (ENG)
    UEFA Delegate: Vilmos Szabó (HUN)

    Group A | 20:00 CET - Chesterfield (Proact Stadium)
    ENGLAND - ISRAEL
    Referee: Halil Umut Meler (TUR)
    Assistant Referee 1: Péter Kóbor (HUN)
    Assistant Referee 2: Chasan Koula (GRE)
    Fourth Official: Bryn David Markham-Jones (WAL)
    UEFA Referee Observer: Marc Batta (FRA)
    UEFA Delegate: Ludovico Micallef (MLT)

    Group B | 20:00 CET - Burton upon Trent (St. George's Park Stadium)
    SLOVENIA - SWEDEN
    Referee: Robert Harvey (IRL)
    Assistant Referee 1: Levan Todria (GEO)
    Assistant Referee 2: Vytis Snarskis (LTU)
    Fourth Official: Tim Marshall (NIR)
    UEFA Referee Observer: Kyros Vassaras (GRE)
    UEFA Delegate: Denis Bastari (ALB)

    5 May 2018

    Group C | 13:30 CET - Loughborough (Loughborough University Stadium)
    DENMARK - BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA
    Referee: Juri Frischer (EST)
    Assistant Referee 1: Yuriy Tikhonyuk (KAZ)
    Assistant Referee 2: Vytis Snarskis (LTU)
    Fourth Official: Keith Kennedy (NIR)
    UEFA Referee Observer: Sokol Jareci (ALB)
    UEFA Delegate: Vilmos Szabó (HUN)

    Group D | 16:00 CET - Walsall (Banks's Stadium)
    GERMANY - NETHERLANDS
    Referee: Tihomir Pejin (CRO)
    Assistant Referee 1: Volodymyr Vysotskyy (UKR)
    Assistant Referee 2: Vlad Lifciu (MDA)
    Fourth Official: Robert Hennessy (IRL)
    UEFA Referee Observer: Paulius Malžinskas (LTU)
    UEFA Delegate: Rudolf Zavrl (SVN)

    Group C | 18:45 CET - Loughborough (Loughborough University Stadium)
    REPUBLIC OF IRELAND - BELGIUM
    Referee: Vilhjálmur Alvar Þórarinsson (ISL)
    Assistant Referee 1: Douglas Potter (SCO)
    Assistant Referee 2: Robert Steinacher (AUT)
    Fourth Official: Dennis Higler (NED)
    UEFA Referee Observer: Vlado Svilokos (CRO)
    UEFA Delegate: Ludovico Micallef (MLT)

    Group D | 18:45 CET - Burton upon Trent (Pirelli Stadium)
    SERBIA - SPAIN
    Referee: Horațiu Mircea Feșnic (ROU)
    Assistant Referee 1: Georgi Doynov (BUL)
    Assistant Referee 2: Rza Məmmədov (AZE)
    Fourth Official: Tim Marshall (NIR)
    UEFA Referee Observer: Marc Batta (FRA)
    UEFA Delegate: Denis Bastari (ALB)

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    1. Mikael W3 May 2018 at 20:59

      If it wasn't for my examinations I could attend some matches at the stadiums!
      At least I will try to watch Meler's match, I have been interested to see him for a while.

      FYI Only six matches will be televised from the group stage, all England and all Spain matches. All KO matches will be available.

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    2. Philipp S3 May 2018 at 21:09

      Doynov seems to have replaced Honkanen, when we compare with the initial information.

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    3. RayHD3 May 2018 at 21:38

      @Mikael W
      :/ Even at uefa.tv it will be only England and Spain games?

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    4. Mikael W3 May 2018 at 21:43

      @RayHD

      http://www.uefa.com/under17/news/newsid=2556769.html

      :-( I know it is sixteen teams, but that is a very disappointing effort by UEFA.

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    5. RayHD3 May 2018 at 21:46

      Most likely the other stadiums has no good enough cameras? Either way, it's really weird. All games should be available to watch at such a tournament!

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    6. Mikael W3 May 2018 at 21:52

      Burton, Chesterfield, Rotherham and Walsall all have the facilities to televise the matches. St George Park centre and Loughborough probably don't (I don't understand why they chose these venues).
      I think rather they want to increase attendances, England is sadly very different to Germany in this way.
      Disappointing in any case.

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  18. david023 May 2018 at 21:03

    Karasev is wearing the "old" 2016 kit. In previous weeks, the new one was used.

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    1. George3 May 2018 at 21:07

      Rocchi wearing blue 2018 kit.

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    2. Soham3 May 2018 at 21:12

      Rocchi is looking incredibly thin tonight :D

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  19. Quilava3 May 2018 at 21:12

    Karasev could have problems with pyro smoke.

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  20. Ref_17073 May 2018 at 21:29

    Close offside call by Averyanov (20‘) denying a promising attack. Well done!

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  21. Ref_17073 May 2018 at 21:32

    Griezmann is bleeding quite heavily and should therefore leave the pitch. Wound remains undetected by Rocchi.

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  22. superstar01103 May 2018 at 21:34

    Am I the only one who thinks that new Adidas kit is terrible?

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    1. david023 May 2018 at 21:44

      Maybe Karasev thinks the same and therefore wears the old one :D

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    2. RikB3 May 2018 at 22:49

      I suppose that proves he is a replacement - he did not receive the new kit.

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    3. VG3 May 2018 at 22:56

      They are horrible. You feel like a clown when you use them. Ugly and terrible fit.

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  23. Teo3 May 2018 at 21:36

    Half an hour - easy going match for Rocchi, almost nothing happened, nothing special to report.
    He is very authoritative, there were some protests and he shoved who is the boss.

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  24. Filip V3 May 2018 at 21:37

    Should have removed Griezzman from the pitch for bleeding

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  25. Teo3 May 2018 at 21:44

    Atletico players really make me nervous. They are protesting all the time. The same is with Real and Barcelona players, and most of Italian teams. On the other side, German and English teams behave as gentlemen on the pitch.

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    1. pino3 May 2018 at 21:45

      Couldn’t agree more.
      It’s a question of culture!

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    2. M3 May 2018 at 21:49

      That is tipical south american style that Cholo Simeone forces them to play.

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  26. M3 May 2018 at 21:48

    Wilshere gets YC after lenient 40 minutes from Rocchi.

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  27. Teo3 May 2018 at 21:49

    I think Rocchi missed YC in 40' for Atletico player. It could have been promising attack. Minute later he issued YC for Wilshere. First foul was more for YC.

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    1. M3 May 2018 at 21:52

      I think he didnt gave it on purpose,he choose lenient way of managing match.And this Tamsey card was pure frustration from him so he deserved it.

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    2. pino3 May 2018 at 21:58

      Totally agree.
      He chose prevention, using the same approach for both teams... then Wilshere’s foul “pays” even for the previous fifty-fifty fouls!

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    3. Teo3 May 2018 at 22:02

      No matter what way he choose: if Wilshere got YC, then Gabi had to got it, too.

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    4. M3 May 2018 at 22:09

      *Wilshere card

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  28. Izo3 May 2018 at 21:50

    Missed YC for Gabi.

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  29. pino3 May 2018 at 21:54

    It’s a really too much pedantic yellow card: in a so physical match is more than clever not to punish that not so clear SPA foul...
    Verbal prevention is the way!

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  30. david023 May 2018 at 21:55

    Good first half by Karasev. 2 YC both correct. No really critical situation. He looks very concentrated, motivated and fit, quite impressive.
    In one situation AR2 flagged offside but the ref let play continue because another player got the ball, I think rightly so. And he has a very clear line in foul detection.

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    1. Soham3 May 2018 at 21:59

      Good to hear positive assessment of Karasev before the World Cup

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    2. RayHD3 May 2018 at 22:01

      Yeah, good, expected level so far. He was quite lenient with Salzburg players - warned them twice, rightly, and then two YCs for SPA to Marseille players. Everything was OK with the LoTG but it's the risk of managing fouls of one team at the beginning.

      Great wait and see at the mentioned offside situation. However, I don't like his style so much. He rather inflames some situations instead of calming things down. A matter of too dynamic and strict approach.

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    3. Teo3 May 2018 at 22:08

      Remember that we all praised Karasev for his performances at EC 2016! He was very good there, some good penalties given. In last years he had some mistakes, but he is one good referee.

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  31. Marco Neri3 May 2018 at 21:57

    Not really challenging first half for Rocchi until last minutes. The game started heating up and he correctly started showing a YC. Maybe a missed YC on Gabi.
    Let’s wait for a hot second half! Hope Rocchi will manage to keep on this way!

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  32. Mikael W3 May 2018 at 21:58

    Basically I saw a good first half by Rocchi, big distant authority on the pitch- good like JUV-NAP.
    But he chose the wrong moment to open the YC, Gabi foul was perfect moment regarding time and the nature of the foul (quite close to SPA, not chances to play the ball fairly). Even for persistent infringement the card to Wilshire was too much, especially considering the line of Rocchi.
    But I want to underline convincing first half by the Italian, besides that.

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  33. Ref_17073 May 2018 at 22:00

    Strange half time whistle by Karasev. FO indicated one minute additional time, however, - after an offside position - Karasev whistled for half time. Just 48 seconds were played at that time...

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  34. usareferee3 May 2018 at 22:07

    Interesting incident in 45'+1 in Arsenal v Atletico. AR1 is running back after a cleared corner and runs into German Burgos on the touchline who is almost on the field.

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  35. M3 May 2018 at 22:16

    Gabi again and this time he gets booked.

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  36. Teo3 May 2018 at 22:17

    Finally YC for Gabi. Very clear one. But, he deserved it earlier.

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  37. M3 May 2018 at 22:23

    Now YC for Monreal.
    Griezmann was getting ready to shoot the ball,so good decision.

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  38. Chefren3 May 2018 at 22:31

    2-0 by Salzburg was scored after a very difficult situation to be assessed by AR2. I think NO FLAG is OK.

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    1. david023 May 2018 at 22:33

      I think it was offside, but, as an Austrian, I have nothing against this no flag ;)

      But, to be objective, for me it was a punishable offside.

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  39. Ref_17073 May 2018 at 22:31

    Possible offside missed by Kalugin before 2-0. Has to be rewatched.

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  40. RayHD3 May 2018 at 22:35

    What an onside by Kalugin at second Salzburg's goal! The player attacking a defender in the penalty area was level (or maybe 2cm offside) with other Marseille's defender who was positioned close to AR.

    https://pasteboard.co/Hjw1sFPx.png

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    1. Ref_17073 May 2018 at 22:42

      I can be wrong but I think there was another possible offside before the goal was scored.

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    2. Teo3 May 2018 at 22:46

      Attacker closer to the ball was clearly offside, but did he interrupt with the defender? Attacker closer to us is onside (look the Marseille's foot of left back player). Hard decision. No handball from attacker that scored.

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    3. Teo3 May 2018 at 22:48

      No offside later, Ref_1707, I re-watched it.

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    4. Ref_17073 May 2018 at 22:51

      Well, then play on seems to be supportable. Thanks for rewatching.

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  41. fednik3 May 2018 at 22:36

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  42. M3 May 2018 at 22:43

    Now confrotation between Costa & Mustafi.YC for both of them.

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  43. Soham3 May 2018 at 22:47

    This Atletico Madrid v Arsenal game has something very boring about it 😪

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    1. Teo3 May 2018 at 22:51

      So easy match for the referee in those 85 minutes. Imagine Skomina here - he would have his place in CL final probably. Rocchi could "buy" it, too. Good performance, but there was not a single one suspicious situation - for him, or his ARs.

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    2. Soham3 May 2018 at 22:53

      Even the pace seems to be really slower than what we had in the CL SFs!!

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    3. Teo3 May 2018 at 22:56

      This match is like slow motion, comparing CL semis. That's Atletico's style of play most of the time.

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    4. pino3 May 2018 at 22:56

      Easy to speak sitting on your sofas.
      The match seems easy because of Rocchi’s perfect management.
      Have you ever refereed a playoff at high level?
      Easy match, this match... incredible to read that!

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    5. Soham3 May 2018 at 22:58

      Why are you getting personal? This match is nowhere close to Cakir or Skomina's game in terms of difficulty or speed... Period.

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    6. pino3 May 2018 at 22:59

      The fact that there weren’t suspicious situations doesn’t mean that the match was easy, come on

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    7. Teo3 May 2018 at 23:01

      Easy match comparing CL semis. No crucial decisions, he wasn't challenged at all. Cakir and Skomina had much tougher matches, and that's not because of their bad management, but because there were so many suspicious situations in PK areas (several handballs, several potential fouls for PK...) and close offside situations. I didn't speak about Rocchi's management - I said above that it was very good.

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    8. Filip V3 May 2018 at 23:01

      Well definetly one of most boring matches i watched recently

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    9. pino3 May 2018 at 23:03

      This is called LUCK and it is extremely important for a Referee. ;)

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    10. George3 May 2018 at 23:10

      The fact that there weren't suspicious situations actually yes, means that the match was easier. Why? Because your management won't be spoiled for a fast, difficult to assess situation which changes the match outcome and puts all the pressure on you. So in terms of Elite refereeing, yes, it is "easy". Of course, it would not be easy for most of us.

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    11. Soham3 May 2018 at 23:15

      My statement was obviously from the perspective of how it applies to an Elite referee and in comparison with the CL SFs and not the situation of an amateur referee like me!!

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  44. M3 May 2018 at 22:49

    Bad thing for Rocchi in this match was IMO handling Griezmann's behaviour.Griezzman was nervous and constantly protesting to Rocchi,he needed to get YC.

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    1. Soham3 May 2018 at 22:51

      These are small things... Doesn't really matter too much in the bigger picture!!

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    2. M3 May 2018 at 22:52

      I know,just small details. :)

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  45. Chefren3 May 2018 at 22:51

    88': excellent onside by AR1 in Salzburg. Very important decision.
    A few seconds earlier, possible deliberate handball in penalty area but I have not still watched a replay.

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    1. david023 May 2018 at 22:54

      I saw a replay, definetly PK. We have another crucial mistake which tarnishes a very good performance.

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    2. david023 May 2018 at 22:57

      But Salzburg didn't get a PK in Marseille too, so I think nobody should be big complaining.
      But for sure, we have two PK missed in this tie first and second leg.

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  46. pino3 May 2018 at 22:53

    Till now, Griezmann’s behaviour doesn’t justify a yellow card.

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  47. Referee analyst3 May 2018 at 22:53

    Stonewall penalty missed by Karasev and co. Unbelievable.

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  48. Chefren3 May 2018 at 22:55

    Arm was totally open. Penalty missed by Karasev, this one was crucial. Only criterion for play-on was short distance, but penalty for me and I think also according to UEFA guidelines.

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  49. Soham3 May 2018 at 22:57

    The digital board has stopped functioning in Madrid 😓

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  50. Soham3 May 2018 at 22:59

    Michael Oliver for EL Final anyone? :D

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    1. Matthewch173 May 2018 at 23:13

      Too inexperienced at this level and as he has the FA Cup final the Saturday before, it wouldn't be a wise decision to give him 2 massive finals in the space of 5 days

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    2. Philipp S3 May 2018 at 23:29

      Maybe as 4th official though.

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  51. M3 May 2018 at 22:59

    Overall,expected level from Rocchi.
    Very good.

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  52. Soham3 May 2018 at 23:01

    So Salzburg v Marseille is into extra time... The least sonorous SF tie "on paper" ends up going the greatest distance... The beauty of football :)

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  53. RayHD3 May 2018 at 23:01

    Video of the handling incident in Salzburg - Marseille
    https://streamable.com/jvo4v

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    1. Marco Neri3 May 2018 at 23:04

      It must be a penalty. No other chances...

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    2. Chefren3 May 2018 at 23:04

      Clear penalty, player increased body's volume. Hopefully this wont be influencing for the outcome... what about Karasev?
      I think he missed the incident, I remember another handball he whistled in a game involving Netherlands during WC qualifiers, and that was by far less and less penalty than this one.

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    3. Teo3 May 2018 at 23:11

      Karasev was well positioned, he was only several meters from the incident. I don't know how he missed it - maybe from his angle he wasn't able to see that the arm is so outstretched. Might b the AAR1 could help - he possibly had better angle.

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    5. Ref_17073 May 2018 at 23:17

      Thanks for posting. On the one hand, the defender‘s arm is in a rather natural position for this kind of defending. On the other hand, the defender‘s arm is not really close to the body and the defender clearly enlarges his body volume. Indeed, a penalty would not have been wrong, nevertheless I can understand why Karasev did not give the penalty.

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  54. Marco Neri3 May 2018 at 23:03

    After this performance I think we may have Rocchi in one of the two finals. I think he deserves it not only for this match but also for his big improving during the season.
    But... could he officiate the final after the semi? I remember Clatts, right, but I’m afraid we won’t see the Italian once again

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    1. pino3 May 2018 at 23:04

      I think now Rocchi in CL and Mazic in EL.

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    2. Soham3 May 2018 at 23:05

      It will be tricky... While Atletico Madrid v Arsenal went all good for him, Real Madrid v PSG wasn't satisfactory... But Skomina being ruled out might act in Rocchi's favour now!!

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    3. Matthewch173 May 2018 at 23:09

      As this game involved a Spanish and an English team and the CL Final involves a Spanish and an English team, I think Rocchi is probably going to get the CL final based upon today's performance and then Mazic will almost certainly get the Europa League final.

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    4. Soham3 May 2018 at 23:12

      Very much possible... But comparing Mazic and Rocchi's palmares, Mazic deserves a CL final much more than Rocchi atm... If indeed Mazic gets EL and Rocchi CL, it will again be proved that Mazic remains the ultimate under-achiever in UEFA among the current generation referees!!

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    5. Matthewch173 May 2018 at 23:21

      Totally agree with you there and Collina being Italian shouldn't be a factor but I've got a feeling it could be such as Rizzoli - World Cup Final

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    6. Teo3 May 2018 at 23:29

      What I can't explain is that Mazic didn't get any game in CL KO stage this season! Why? There is no reasonable explanation. Do you find reasonable that he was originally planned for CL final, and therefore saved from potential mistakes against the team that could reach the final? Hardly so. Might be that he was originally planned for EL final and therefore was appointed only in EL clashes. For me, that sounds more reasonable.
      And to be clear, for one Serbian referee it would be great honor to officiate EL final, after Super Cup final and Confederations Cup final! In old Yugoslavia, only one ref officiated European Champions' Cup back in 1973 when the final was at Crvena zvezda stadium in Belgrade.
      But, I still believe Mazic has the chance for CL final - I think chances are 50/50 for Rocchi and him. But who knows - might be that he doesn't get any!

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  55. Marco Neri3 May 2018 at 23:05

    Possible RC for Salburg’s Hazard? Very harsh tackle

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  56. George3 May 2018 at 23:05

    Good performance by Rocchi, in general terms, but points for improvement: card-showing procedure in confrontation (Diego Costa was actually shown the yellow card twice, which means a red). Also, when Costa got injured, Griezmann asked to be sent off: first he tackled an opponent (who evaded it) in a way which live seemed to me reckless at the very least (I haven't seen a replay) in order to stop play, and then confronted the referee in a way that deserves a YC for not stopping play. Also, missing first YC for Gabi. Apart from that, good performance in a very easy match.

    Soham said that the game was boring: it is the usual Atlético way of playing. Boring, defensive and playing counter-attack, dirty play many times (simulation, confrontation), but effective for them at the end. Also, Arsenal performance was not very good also, both when attacking and defending.

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    1. Soham3 May 2018 at 23:06

      Yeah George you're right... The Atletico way of playing... Match not a spectacle but nevertheless effective for the Spanish team :)

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  57. Marco Neri3 May 2018 at 23:08

    Now substitution for Salzburg. The player entered the pitch with a little paper with some advises for his teammates. We’ve already seen things like this several time. Is it allowed?

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  58. Soham3 May 2018 at 23:13

    It's a card fest in Salzburg :D 9 YCs already :D

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  60. George3 May 2018 at 23:31

    Wow, a wrong corner kick ends in a goal which means Salzburg has to score 2 in 3 minutes. Very bad luck for Karasev.

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  61. Marco Neri3 May 2018 at 23:31

    Ouch... another error by Karasev and his assistants. There wasn’t the corner which lead to Marseille goal

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    1. Marco Neri3 May 2018 at 23:33

      We can say that this error makes up for the missed handball

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  62. david023 May 2018 at 23:31

    Sorry, but we have another disaster because of mistakes. Clear wrong corner leads to 2-1. VAR is a must, I'm sorry.

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    2. Ref_17073 May 2018 at 23:33

      VAR could not have done anything in this case.

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    3. Marco Neri3 May 2018 at 23:35

      Right, VAR wouldn’t have helped in this case. But there were 6/8 eyes that could have spotted the touch. Very bad on them

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    4. JB3 May 2018 at 23:35

      Thing is, VAR would not be able to change this.

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    5. david023 May 2018 at 23:37

      Then the protocoll should be changed. Such things doesn't make any sense.
      I was a clear opponent of VAR, but the important wrong decisions in last weeks changed my view about this thing.

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    6. Marco Neri3 May 2018 at 23:41

      VAR is ok, but you can’t introduce it for each episode during a game. How many mistaken corners are there in every match? Then, why only corners?

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    7. usaref3 May 2018 at 23:43

      And this is the slippery slope that opponents of VAR rightly cite. If you can review THIS corner kick decision, then you have to review ALL corner kick decisions. Because you can’t only check corner kicks after goals are scored.

      VAR will ultimately change the game beyond all recognition if we don’t have strict constraints on it. I already think it covers too many situations as is.

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    8. usaref3 May 2018 at 23:43

      Agreed @Marco

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    9. david023 May 2018 at 23:47

      I understand this point. In case of corners, you have to control free kicks, throw ins and everything else, that would be too much, thats right.
      But it is really emberassing that this important games are decided by mistakes. Today I had such a good feeling with Karasev, he was so good, then this handball and the wrong corner...
      It's simply unfair to the teams and spectators.

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  63. Quilava3 May 2018 at 23:31

    Oh, god. Why

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  64. Ref_17073 May 2018 at 23:31

    Wrong corner before 2-1. A very unfortunate evening for Karasev.

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  65. DutchRedREF3 May 2018 at 23:32

    Marseille scores from a corner, but a corner should never given. What a mistake with consequences.

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  66. RayHD3 May 2018 at 23:32

    One of the worst corner kick decision you'll see. It was soooo clear that it should be a goal kick... So important mistake.

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  67. M3 May 2018 at 23:32

    Ouchhhhhhh.
    Ball hit Marseille player but corner was called for Marseille and from that corner goal was score.

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  68. Quilava3 May 2018 at 23:33

    If only Marseille had not scored that corner...why AAR didn't correct Karásev?

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  69. Teo3 May 2018 at 23:34

    Huuuuuh Marseille scored after the corner kick, but it shouldn't be corner. Marseille's player "blocked" the ball and it went out. Whole Russian crew incredible missed it.

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  70. George3 May 2018 at 23:35

    Now correct 2nd YC.

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  71. DutchRedREF3 May 2018 at 23:35

    2nd YC for Haidara, supportable call

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  72. Ref_17073 May 2018 at 23:35

    2ndYC for Haidara. Still reckless or even VC?

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  73. M3 May 2018 at 23:36

    So that means that only Rocchi had good match in all 2nd legs this week.

    Bad couple of days for some UEFA-s elite refs .

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  74. Andrasch Neunert3 May 2018 at 23:36

    What must still happen to make UEFA think new about VAR? This is just incredible. The perfect way to destroy the fans' belief in a fair competition.

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    1. usaref3 May 2018 at 23:41

      VAR wouldn’t have fixed the corner kick decision in Salzburg.

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    2. Teo3 May 2018 at 23:43

      One mistake lead to another... If Karasev whistled PK (and VAR would help him), there probably wouldn't be overtime and this second mistake. He could get 8.4 and now he is 7.4 or below (well, I don't really now is wrong corner after which team scored is considered as a crucial mistake...). Nevertheless, the damage is big, so are the protests.

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  75. Gitzlo3 May 2018 at 23:38

    Collum in 1st leg and Karasev in 2nd leg decide the UEFA Europa League semi-final. Are these referees really the best we have in Europe? Such clear (!!!) mistakes in so important games. Unbelievable.

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  76. Marco Neri3 May 2018 at 23:38

    Terrible behaviour by Salzburg coach. I can understand his feelings but you can’t act this way with the refs

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    1. Soham3 May 2018 at 23:39

      Is he sent to the stands??

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    2. david023 May 2018 at 23:40

      Of course not, after the final whistle ;)

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    3. Ref_17073 May 2018 at 23:41

      Game was over. Massive complaints by the Austrians.

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    4. Soham3 May 2018 at 23:41

      Oh I see... Poor Salzburg!!

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    5. Quilava3 May 2018 at 23:42

      What happened? I switched off the TV after Marseille goal. Still can't believe it.

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    6. Soham3 May 2018 at 23:43

      OT :

      Quilava was one of the most favourite Pokémons 🤗

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    7. Quilava3 May 2018 at 23:47

      Thanks, its both kawaii (cute) and powerful ;)

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  77. RefSoccer34123 May 2018 at 23:41

    Why does not see AAR1 Lapochkin? Very mistake for Karasev.

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  78. Soham3 May 2018 at 23:42

    Bad Çakir, Bad Skomina, Good Rocchi, Bad Karasev...Bad Collina, Bad Dallas, Bad Batta

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    1. Teo3 May 2018 at 23:45

      ...Bad Kuipers. Bad Brych (rather his AR)... Good Turpin!
      Only 2 crews from 8 in semis deserved overall 8.3 or above! Disaster. I think that something like that never happened before.

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