Wednesday, 2 May 2018

Damir Skomina in AS Roma - FC Liverpool (discussion)

Damir Skomina's performance in AS Roma - FC Liverpool.
02.05.2018, 20:45 CET
Stadio Olimpico, Rome (ITA)
AS Roma - FC Liverpool
Referee: Damir Skomina (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Jure Praprotnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Robert Vukan (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Matej Jug (SVN)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Slavko Vinčič (SVN)
Fourth Official: Tomaž Klančnik (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alain Hamer (LUX)
UEFA Delegate: Ronald Zimmermann (GER)
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  1. Chefren2 May 2018 at 17:57

    Hopefully this time 200 (199) comments will be enough for Skomina game... :)

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    1. Soham2 May 2018 at 18:35

      The earlier post had 97 comments left still :D

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    2. "Dynamic Personality"???2 May 2018 at 20:08

      Bar was set pretty low by Cakir yesterday. Only way is up for Skomina and his crew.

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    3. Soham2 May 2018 at 20:32

      Cakir discussion in previous thread so why bringing it up here??

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    4. "Dynamic Personality"???2 May 2018 at 21:11

      1) I mentioned Skomina in my comment
      2) Because I can :D

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  2. CroRef2 May 2018 at 20:57

    Ok, it looks like we'll have Real-Liverpool in final, there is a chance for Italian referee, but with all due respect, I don't think Rocchi is the one who deserves to officiate CL final this season.

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  3. Filip V2 May 2018 at 21:00

    This game is already over. Should be routine job for Skomina without lot of pressure.

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    1. Mikael W2 May 2018 at 21:01

      Well... ;-)
      Btw did Skomina miss a penalty at 8'?

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    2. Mlacko2 May 2018 at 21:03

      1:1, nothing is over yet, still alot of football to be played.

      @Mikael - Seems like they missed penalty for pushing with hands..

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    3. Filip V2 May 2018 at 21:03

      Nope

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    4. Emil2 May 2018 at 21:03

      And yet a few dodgy penalty decisions early on. The push in the back to me seems like a likelier penalty than not. The tackle (and flip) at the top of the area rather not (defender allowed to hold his position).

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  4. Chefren2 May 2018 at 21:03

    Well, let's wait before making certain statements, because this Champions League has shown us everything.

    Possible penalty / free kick missed by Skomina for Liverpool some minutes ago, there was a clear contact and attacker from Liverpool was stopped in his action.

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    1. Philipp S2 May 2018 at 21:09

      Sounds strange, but IMO that scene is either a clear free kick (if outside) or rather no penalty (if inside) by the common practice, that the bar for a whistle is set much higher in the penalty area and the fact that the ball was already played away.
      Of course, theoretically a wrong argumentation, but practically speaking...

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    2. Soham2 May 2018 at 21:13

      IMO that's a missed penalty :(

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    3. referee observer2 May 2018 at 21:28

      Free kick. Foul is outside the penalty area.

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  5. Teo2 May 2018 at 21:10

    Interesting that almost noone noticed the pushing from the back (Mane) in 8th minute. There was excellent replay few minutes ago. I would like to read your oppinios, especially comparing this push with push when Oliver gave penalty, and with slight push in Liverpool's PK area, which was assessed as foul in favor of Liverpool.
    This moment Skomina totally missed foul and very possible YC for Kolarov.

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    1. Filip V2 May 2018 at 21:14

      Did not see it. Or maybe i didnt pay attention:)

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  6. Mlacko2 May 2018 at 21:12

    Excellent decision to allow goal for LIV

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    1. petschovschi2 May 2018 at 21:14

      There was a small push on Dzeko. Not enough for a foul ?

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    2. Mlacko2 May 2018 at 21:16

      Didnt saw it, would like to see replay :)

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  7. Unknown2 May 2018 at 21:13

    2 missed penalties for Liverpool, foul against Dzeko before 1-2

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    1. Filip V2 May 2018 at 21:17

      For me whistling any of those would be way to soft

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    2. Soham2 May 2018 at 21:21

      I think 1st one is a penalty missed... 2nd one I haven't seen so waiting for some video!!

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    3. referee observer2 May 2018 at 21:29

      Boyh decisions are good. First one reminded me of the Real - Juve one.

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  8. Mikael W2 May 2018 at 21:14

    Good (expected) co-operation by Skomina to tell AR1 that it was a defender hitting the ball not an attacker, and hence to allow the 1-2. A good fact, if one is remembering to Paris or Sevilla for the Slovenian, showing his positive development in the years since.

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    1. Teo2 May 2018 at 21:24

      Nevertheless, it wasn't offside. Clear situation, even if the attacker played the ball. I didn't notice possible push on Dzeko.

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  9. Chefren2 May 2018 at 21:15

    Now the game seems to be decided in favor of Liverpool, but I'm not watching a concentrated Skomina, to be honest.
    So-so the Slovenian so far...

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    1. Soham2 May 2018 at 21:17

      Just seems a little distracted too... Sadness at missing CL final, yet again?? :/

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    2. Chefren2 May 2018 at 21:18

      He should not think that before the end of today game...

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    3. Soham2 May 2018 at 21:20

      He is human... Flesh and bones like you and me... And there is a thing called subconscious mind :)

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    4. Filip V2 May 2018 at 21:22

      I agree with Soham plus result of the game

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    5. Mikael W2 May 2018 at 21:22

      Agreed, but I think one can feel for him. After one of the few referees that made a great season in 2012/13 he got Barcelona 0-4 Bayern, and he has 'that' match again tonight.
      Fully agreed with Philipp, I would rather have seen Skomina in Madrid than Çakir.

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    6. Teo2 May 2018 at 21:28

      You are talking here like this is some inessential match. This is CL semifinal! Not much above that! He got EL final last year and will get CL final next year.

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    7. Filip V2 May 2018 at 21:32

      I am just saying it would be much different if it was tie match

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    8. "Dynamic Personality"???2 May 2018 at 21:56

      It's an assignment that demands his full attention and his best performance. It be unfair to the teams and go against the spirit of the game if he under appreciates the match.

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    9. Emil2 May 2018 at 22:23

      Amazingly, I'm with Castilli here: Skomina is a professional who is expected to work like one. He is allowed to be annoyed at not getting the final, or at not getting Real Madrid, etc. But he is a professional referee on the (second) biggest stage of the planet, and one should expect full concentration on the match, regardless of other circumstances. Even Pitana in the 7-1 semi in 2014 remained fully concentrated :)

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  10. Unknown2 May 2018 at 21:19

    You are right Chefren. Too many mistakes only in half an hour

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  11. Chefren2 May 2018 at 21:26

    40' live impression without waiting for a replay: correct to play on, attacker looked for the contact, maybe not simulation, but surely more attacker's fault than defender's foul...

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    1. Chefren2 May 2018 at 21:27

      ... and now after the replay: simulation for me, missed YC by Skomina. However, it looked clear that this wasn't a penalty.

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  12. M2 May 2018 at 21:27

    Shaarawy with dive maybe,missed yc?

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  13. M2 May 2018 at 21:30

    Now YC to Lovren,no other option.

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  14. Chefren2 May 2018 at 21:30

    44' YC for SPA: correct decision by Skomina, however, let me underline, what a reaction by the Slovenian when the player started a protest... he looked too aggressive with his face, if you ask me.
    Today Skomina is not calm, I don't know why.

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    1. david022 May 2018 at 21:37

      The way he showed the card wasn't very good IMO. Not the best performance but neither a bad one. If he continues like that in second half, I don't think that somebody will have big problems with the referee. And that would be fine, as we all know what happened in last weeks after the matches from Cakir, Oliver and Mateu.

      But you are right, somehow he seems to be a bit nerved today.

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    2. Chefren2 May 2018 at 21:38

      Fully agree with your words...

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    3. Soham2 May 2018 at 21:58

      I think Skomina is angry with some former bald Italian referee today :D

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    4. Andreja2 May 2018 at 22:13

      Agree, the match is tense and he is not calm as usual. Soham, maybe you're right he looks a bit angry but not necessary with the person you mention.. 😉

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    5. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:20

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    6. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:21

      God knows, it's only a speculation anyway :/ Might be that he got scolded by Mrs. Skomina in the morning :/

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    7. Lewis2 May 2018 at 22:33

      Similar situation in 84': he seems to be not calm enough. And he pushes Manolas away, which completely unnecessary. A referee should generally avoid such strong physical contact in general I think

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  15. Teo2 May 2018 at 21:30

    Little chat between Lovren and Skomina in Serbo-Croatian-Slovenian :-)

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  16. fednik2 May 2018 at 21:40

    I have honestly seen a convincing Skomina so far, IMO correct no-call on 2nd Liverpool goal, and I don't see the two possible penalties as clear ones. One of them seems rather outside the box.

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  17. RayHD2 May 2018 at 21:41

    My views regarding first half:

    09' - there is a push on Mané in front of AAR1, most likely the referee crew assessed it as not enough for a penalty and looking at how Mané fell down, I can agree with it

    11' - there is a contact but outside the box, so talking about two missed penalties is very wrong; to be fair, Liverpool player played the ball, would have never reached it and his running path was not in direction of ball, so play on is an optimal call if you ask me

    24' - missed stamp, possible YC

    40' - correct no penalty call after El Shaarawy's exaggerated fall, possible YC for a dive

    41' - good Jug's reaction on conflict in front of him, he was very quick jumping between two players

    44' - correct free kick and YC for SPA, really strong reaction on dissent, I would applaud him for being so strict with disssent, I don't interpret it as too aggressive

    8,4 for now

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    1. Filip V2 May 2018 at 21:44

      I agree completely with everything

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    2. fednik2 May 2018 at 21:46

      Me too

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    3. referee observer2 May 2018 at 21:46

      Fully agree

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    4. Teo2 May 2018 at 21:54

      About the push from behind: I am 100% convinced that this push is stronger than one in Madrid. Both hands on the back, push, attacker fall - if for you penalty in Madrid was correct, than this one has to be, too.
      As I said, about 10-12 minutes later there was much, much easier push in Liverpool's PK area and Skomina whistled a foul from attacker. Inconsistency? Those situations are absolutely comparable.

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    5. Soham2 May 2018 at 21:55

      Dealt well with Lovren's dissent... Stood firm and gave a death stare... No eccentric gesturing and no agression... Well done :)

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    6. Teo2 May 2018 at 21:58

      RayHD, let me tell you: You would be referees' favorite referee observer :-)

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    7. RayHD2 May 2018 at 22:11

      I don't think so, I can easily deduce marks for some lacks, to be honest, but am not keen to award crucial mistakes. UEFA observers are more lenient than me, believe me ;)

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  18. Gylfi462 May 2018 at 21:42

    Not the usual Skomina.

    He penalized 3 incidents for so and so pushes, and didn’t penalize the 8’ clear push on Mane. Just because it was in the penalty box?

    I’m not saying it should’ve been a penalty, but since he’s giving for slight pushes, he definitely should’ve given the penalty.

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    1. RayHD2 May 2018 at 21:45

      Here I fully agree, he whistles slight pushes everywhere outside the box. Inconsistent approach.

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  19. Chefren2 May 2018 at 21:52

    49': unluckily wrong flag by AR1, and then there was a potential penalty for Roma... game had been stopped, in any case.

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    1. M2 May 2018 at 21:54

      Big mistake then.

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    2. Filip V2 May 2018 at 22:04

      To me it seemed like upper body part of Dzeko was in offside

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  20. Soham2 May 2018 at 21:52

    49' : Wrong offside called... Missed penalty for Roma!!

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    1. Chefren2 May 2018 at 21:55

      You can'ty say missed penalty, game had been stopped :)
      But yes, penalty would have been called in case of game allowed...

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    2. Soham2 May 2018 at 21:56

      That was very spontaneous and would've happened anyway... That was a very wrong flag sadly :(

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    3. referee observer2 May 2018 at 21:58

      Good offside call. Upper body is offside.

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    4. Steve Smith2 May 2018 at 22:03

      Totally good offside call!!

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    5. Filip V2 May 2018 at 22:05

      To me it seemed like upper body part of Dzeko was in offside

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    6. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:05

      Any video available, anonymous? Upper body looked level to me?

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  21. M2 May 2018 at 21:53

    Now close offside call

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  22. Teo2 May 2018 at 21:55

    And now goal from small, very small, but still offside. Huh

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  23. Unknown2 May 2018 at 21:56

    2-2 offside

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  24. Quilava2 May 2018 at 21:56

    Possible missed offside in Dzeko goal? Right foot seems a little bit.

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  25. Soham2 May 2018 at 21:57

    Potential missed offside before 2-2 by Roma... That's 2 wrong offside decisions by AR1 in about 3 minutes!!

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    1. Lewis2 May 2018 at 22:12

      IMO Skomina's biggest weakness in the past have been his assistants who haven't been as consistent as himself. As concrete examples Man Utd - Leverkusen and Sevilla - Bilbao have been matches in the past where some really bad offside decisions have been made. Today they weren't quite as obvious but one should still expect better on this level I believe

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    2. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:14

      Yes that's true not the strongest ARs... But still Skomina, Praprotnik and Vukan's team is the strongest ever for Skomina!!

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    3. Lewis2 May 2018 at 22:17

      But maybe it is still not good enough? I could imagine that it is a reason why he is not getting the CL final (yet)

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    4. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:18

      In comparison to Mazic that maybe a reason... The Serbian has two fantastic ARs, I must say!!

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    5. Mikael W2 May 2018 at 22:22

      Ever since Arhar and Stančin retired, a big problem for Skomina. Even they tried an Italian AR after the important mistakes of Zunic, and that breakdown of communication made the big mistake in Sevilla.
      I think Prapotnik and Vukan are decent ARs (relatively) but probably not more, Skomina is not so lucky as Kuipers, Çakir et al.

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    6. Lewis2 May 2018 at 22:24

      Exactly! Same applies to Rocchi, which might even put him in front of Skomina in the eyes of the committee (especially after this evening)

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    7. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:31

      @Mikael You're right... In my opinion Kuipers, Cakir and Mazic has the best ARs in Europe... Even Brych falls a little short in this area...

      @Lewis : Rocchi would be okay for an EL final IMO... But for CL final, I can't see him ahead of Mazic at this moment...

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    8. Lewis2 May 2018 at 22:45

      Personally, I would prefer Mazic too. Rocchi has the advantage of having handled a big KO game this season (Real-PSG) and being Italian probably helps well

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  26. Quilava2 May 2018 at 21:58

    Liverpool claimed PK for handball, IMO correct play on.

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  27. Soham2 May 2018 at 21:59

    55' : Correct FK just outside the box

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  28. Mlacko2 May 2018 at 22:06

    Missed PK in 62 min?

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  29. Chefren2 May 2018 at 22:06

    63': missed penalty for Roma, clear handball.
    Unluckily, not on AAR side, so missed by all officials.

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    1. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:07

      Any chance of Skomina whistling the final is over now!

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    2. Mikael W2 May 2018 at 22:08

      Skomina needed to react and run diagonally to have any perception on that.

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    3. George2 May 2018 at 22:08

      And DOGSO.

      A similar incident maybe happened yesterday, although tonight's was clearer.

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    4. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:10

      Exactly Mikael... Positioning wasn't good... Lacked anticipation IMO

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    5. M2 May 2018 at 22:10

      But tonight nall was going in direction of goal,so if penalty was whistled then RC should have been issued.

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    6. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:13

      Yes @M... Correct!

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  30. Teo2 May 2018 at 22:06

    Missed PK and RC in 63'.

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  31. Unknown2 May 2018 at 22:06

    What a penalty missed???

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  32. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:06

    63' : Missed penalty for Roma for massive, deliberate handball... Very difficult to spot for Skomina

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  33. Quilava2 May 2018 at 22:06

    PK (and RC for DOGSO) missed?

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  34. M2 May 2018 at 22:07

    63'.Now big missed penalty for Roma clear handball from Arnold

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  35. referee observer2 May 2018 at 22:08

    Min 63 missed penalty for ASR for Handball. Plus a RC.

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  36. Filip V2 May 2018 at 22:08

    Not so clear penalty IMO. It was really short distance and no time for reaction, and also not unnatural position

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    1. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:11

      Penalty + RC IMO

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    2. pino2 May 2018 at 22:11

      Would you define that position as natural?
      No reason for the arm to be there...
      This is a clear punishable handball.

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    3. Teo2 May 2018 at 22:17

      Filip, you should download and watch UEFA RAP (you have the link on the right side). This handling is absolutely punishable. Skomina totally missed the handling - if so he would whistled it and gave RC.

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    4. Filip V2 May 2018 at 22:19

      Well considering movement of the rest of the body and the fact that arm was moving towards the the body not from it i IMO it can be judged as natural position

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    5. Rafalbowler2 May 2018 at 22:28

      Fully agreed, unnatural position, made himself bigger and DOGSO

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  37. pino2 May 2018 at 22:09

    Skomina’s position was perfect: how can you say that it was difficult to spot? Crucial mistake here...
    This is a clear lack of focus in the match by the Slovenian.

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    1. Mikael W2 May 2018 at 22:14

      I only saw one replay but I thought Skomina had a 0° angle. Maybe Jug had some chances to see it?

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    2. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:17

      Mikael, no chance for Jug IMO... He would be seeing the entire thing through the net, if at all

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  38. david022 May 2018 at 22:10

    63': Missed PK and DOGSO Red...
    To be honest, I'm so annoyed that in the last weeks the referees (Skomina today, Oliver, Cakir yesterday...) delivered good performances and always there's this crucial mistake...

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    1. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:10

      Oliver had no crucial mistake???

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    2. david022 May 2018 at 22:11

      Collum last week also with a acceptable performance, but a penalty missed. I can't stand this anymore.

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    3. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:13

      Just shows the importance of VAR at this level... I hope Ceferin is watching!!

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    4. david022 May 2018 at 22:13

      Maybe Oliver hadn't the crucial mistake, but a very controversial decision to take with a lot of discussions. Can't there be a match without big mistakes or controversies anymore?

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    5. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:16

      Maybe with VAR the major controversies will decrease...

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    6. david022 May 2018 at 22:21

      I hope so, but honestly speaking I think that VAR will cause more problems than it avoids. Just look at Confed Cup...

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    7. Andreja2 May 2018 at 22:21

      Soham, I bet A. Čeferin is watching but as he emphasised in some recent interviews he is against the prompt introduction of VAR.. but prefers to be tested before introduction in CL..

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    8. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:29

      A. Ceferin has no point of debate at all... It's being used in the World Cup so it's ready to go in CL as well... This season crucial mistakes have been far too many, I have to say!!

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    9. Emil2 May 2018 at 22:36

      Soham, based on the experience from MLS: No, VAR will absolutely not lead to a decrease in controversies and difficult decisions. You think a VAR would have solved the Real-Juve penalty issue?

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    10. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:41

      That was a penalty for me anyway... In that case the referee was the problem for people... Imagine Brych or Kuipers whistling it... Would've accepted a lot more by media and fans... Just because it was Oliver, such a huge fuss was made out of it!!

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  39. Quilava2 May 2018 at 22:10

    Now a good no-offside by AR1.

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  40. Chefren2 May 2018 at 22:10

    Not sure whether the ball was going into the net, in case RC would have been possible as well.
    We can't go on in this way at high level.
    We can discuss about good or excellent perormances, but everything is decided to the incidents.
    I'm really sorry, now this should cost Skomina CL final and maybe committee was aware of this big risk.

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    1. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:12

      IMO Committee never planned him for a final... There is someone else in the radar... Now imagine like this happens with Rocchi tomorrow... Who will the Committee turn to apart from Mazic?

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    2. RayHD2 May 2018 at 22:13

      It's a clear goal denied, so it should've been a RC. VAR is needed in the so dynamic football nowadays. Unfortunately, we won't experience it next UEFA season, too...

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    3. Peter2 May 2018 at 22:14

      Orsato?

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    4. Chefren2 May 2018 at 22:14

      Mazic...

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    5. david022 May 2018 at 22:15

      Expect the unexpected... what if Mazic gets injured?

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    6. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:15

      EL final to Hategan?

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    7. "Dynamic Personality"???2 May 2018 at 22:17

      UEFA = Leading the way and being at the edge of innovation by keeping things in the Stone Age.

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    8. Philipp S2 May 2018 at 22:32

      Final appointments might depend on Rocchi's performance tomorrow.
      Beside the mentioned Orsato and Hategan, I can even imagine Makkelie for the EL final.

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    9. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:36

      If Makkelie gets a final then I've to say Collina hasn't learnt anything from the Oliver episode... Coming to Orsato and Hategan, neither is ready for an European final just yet, IMO

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    10. Mikael W2 May 2018 at 22:39

      If Arsenal go through, I really could imagine Turpin in Lyon, who would deserve it but I think it would be too early for the French.

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    11. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:40

      Marseille is a club from France, Mikael :D

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    12. Mikael W2 May 2018 at 22:42

      Of course ;-)
      Turpin needs two "upsets" tomorrow, for his chances for the EL Final.

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    13. referee2 May 2018 at 22:43

      Brych? :)

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    14. petschovschi2 May 2018 at 22:43

      Despite the fact that I'm romanian, I can't even think that Hategan will whistle EL final. I can't believe something like that.
      On the other hand I think he's capable. He already whistled two important semifinals in his career: Manchester United- Celta Vigo (very good performance) and Brazil- Honduras (Olympic Games, Maracana, Neymar etc)

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    15. Mikael W2 May 2018 at 22:48

      Brazil - Iraq at the Olympics for Hategan was one of the best refereeeing I saw at a FIFA championship ever!
      I hope that he can attend the EL Final, I am really sorry for him what happened in Belfast, he is a fantastic referee who has developed so much in the last years. His approach to dissent is perhaps the best in whole Elite Category IMO.

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  41. Teo2 May 2018 at 22:14

    To be clear: besides Mazic, Skomina is my favorite ref. He is Slovenian, and i love Slovenia :-) That's not so important of course, he is one excellent ref fine great style of refereeing.
    But I have to admit that I have never watch such a bad performance from Slovenian crew. In fact, I am more than disappointed with refs' performances in those semifinals! By far, the best performance was from Turpin. The rest were far below expectations (not speaking about Collum - didn't watch him).

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    1. Chefren2 May 2018 at 22:15

      However for most of the crucial mistakes, you can't really blame referees... VAR is only solution there, I will repeat that again and again!

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    2. "Dynamic Personality"???2 May 2018 at 22:18

      "Excuse" me?

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    3. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:22

      @Chefren totally correct you are!!

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    4. Teo2 May 2018 at 22:27

      I agree, I absolutely do. VAR is a need! I don't know why we still don't have it. But we don't and that means that THE BEST REFS should be more concentrated. They can not allow so many mistakes - if they did that in the past - they wouldn't be here now, in position they are. They earned it, of course, but they cannot live on their old glory. Those number of mistakes from the best refs are unacceptable at this level and in such important matches.

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    5. Emil2 May 2018 at 22:47

      I would urge you to have a strong look at MLS this season before demanding the VAR...the experience is very far from effective. The VAR has added no precision and many more useless red cards. You can watch the "Instant Replay" videos on Mlssoccer.com - the commentators are laymen (an analyst and a former player turned analyst), but they do a good coverage of the situations and are often right. It's not good.

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  42. Chefren2 May 2018 at 22:18

    75': borderline call by AR2, maybe player was onside...

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  43. Unknown2 May 2018 at 22:18

    No offside for Mane

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  44. Quilava2 May 2018 at 22:21

    YC for Florenzi for a reckless challenge, borderline for me.

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  45. George2 May 2018 at 22:21

    75' reckless or SFP? I have my doubts...

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  46. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:27

    Question to all : Considering rather haphazard refereeing performances throughout this CL KO stage by almost all referees at least once, is it time for Collina to leave??

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    1. Teo2 May 2018 at 22:31

      It is time for Collina to put kit on and to go to the pitch, to show how old master does it! :-)

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    2. DrMr2 May 2018 at 22:32

      My perfect combination is Collina to stay plus VAR

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    3. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:33

      Yes that's the only thing left to be done :D So Collina for the Real Madrid v Liverpool match at Kyiv with Hugh Dallas and Mark Batta as ARs?? :D

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    4. Teo2 May 2018 at 22:35

      They could be only AARs :-)

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    5. Mikael W2 May 2018 at 22:37

      In 2012/13 there was the same situation, only a few referees always showing good performances: Kuipers, Lannoy(!), Skomina, Mazic, Webb.

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    6. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:40

      Among the WC referees only Mazic and Karasev(!!) has had no underwhelming performance... Rest of the 8 referees all had some or the other controversy at some point in the KO stage!!

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    7. Teo2 May 2018 at 22:44

      Mazic and Karasev will have their "chances" :-)

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    8. david022 May 2018 at 22:50

      Mazic didn't get a CL KO game and IIRC Karasev not a single match after EL R16 (until tomorrow). That's the reason.

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  47. Chefren2 May 2018 at 22:31

    3-2 by Roma... if they had scored earlier in the game, they could have tried to qualify. A crucial mistake is significant in any case, despite of the score in which it happens.
    I'm really sorry for Skomina, because without that handball, his performance could have been assessed at least as overall OK.

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  48. Mikael W2 May 2018 at 22:32

    Impressive prevention by Skomina these last minutes

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    1. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:34

      Unfortunately missed PK and RC spoils the entire performance :(

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    2. Steve Smith2 May 2018 at 22:45

      Sooo funny. Yesterday there were AT LEAST two missed penalties determining the outcome of the match but it was "solid overall". Today (and I still have to look into lots of incidents) there might have been a missed PK (without influencing the tie, though) and that "spoils the entire performance". What a joke!

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  49. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:36

    90+3' : Penalty to Roma

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    1. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:36

      I've lots of doubts about this one!!

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    2. DrMr2 May 2018 at 22:38

      Totaly wrong decision IMO.
      Can the arm be in more natural position???

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    3. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:43

      Plus the fact he didn't whistle the earlier one makes this complete rubbish!!

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  50. Chefren2 May 2018 at 22:36

    This penalty call.... for sure less penalty than the missed one, but in any case for me no penalty.

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    1. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:37

      I think it's undeliberate... Skomina has been all over the place tonight!!

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    2. Emil2 May 2018 at 22:39

      I think this is a crucial mistake. No way this can be deemed intentional. But at 90+3, match is over and Skomina knows it...

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  51. Teo2 May 2018 at 22:36

    Huuuh Is this a penalty???

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  52. Quilava2 May 2018 at 22:38

    90+3' Correct PK for handball in front of AAR.

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  53. Mlacko2 May 2018 at 22:38

    Wrong penalty, arm was in natural position..

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  54. Chefren2 May 2018 at 22:39

    It was whistled only because seen by AAR1... that's all.
    But about handballs there is more than a big confusion.

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    1. Emil2 May 2018 at 22:41

      Generally, yes, there is confusion, but on this one, IMO, none. I can't think of any situation, league, or referee where this should be whistled.

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  55. zoran 792 May 2018 at 22:39

    Catastrophic Skomina!

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    1. Unknown2 May 2018 at 22:43


      Catastrophic Çakir yesterday.

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    2. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:44

      Today's one was more error strewn in a much easier game!!

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  56. Unknown2 May 2018 at 22:40

    Awful refereeing nothing to say

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  57. referee observer2 May 2018 at 22:41

    Never a penalty. Skomina spoilt his overall good season. Too bad.

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    1. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:45

      Will start with a low-profile CL playoff in the next season after this :(

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  58. Chefren2 May 2018 at 22:42

    I'm sorry we have another 7.4.
    This time handballs have determined this mark...

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  59. Izo2 May 2018 at 22:42

    Calm down...one crucial mistske to be honest not so easy to spot that is all

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    1. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:45

      1 missed penalty + 1 missed RC, 1 wrong penalty... Clear 7.4

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  60. stockfish2 May 2018 at 22:45

    So many mistakes. But they are not in one side. So +1 -1 = 0 ...

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    1. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:46

      Two wrongs can never ever make a right... This is the first thing I learnt in refereeing... Never to even think about levelling things up with a 2nd mistake...

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    2. stockfish2 May 2018 at 22:50

      You are absolutely right. But luckily the mistakes are in favor of one side and the consequence is not that bad. 99% of the people believe Liverpool will advance to the final and this is what people see. I would say Skomina is lucky because of this. Otherwise he would be the second Tom Henning.

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  61. Unknown2 May 2018 at 22:46

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ViasatFotbollSE/status/991771534413979648/photo/1?tfw_creator=KurirVesti&tfw_site=KurirVesti&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kurir.rs%2Fsport%2Ffudbal%2F3041837%2Fvideo-slovenac-rimljane-zavio-u-crno-roma-ozbiljno-ostecena-protiv-liverpula

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  62. George2 May 2018 at 22:46

    Well, UEFA is facing now an important decision. Refereeing level in CL second leg semifinals has not been good enough. Next is the WC which will include VAR. If it works well, what will be UEFA's excuse when inevitable human mistakes occur next season in UCL/UEL and people already know that they could have been avoided? If it doesn't, they only have to say that they won't activate it yet. However, the system must be installed and available for next season. Then, depending on WC result, they could turn it on or not.

    So, it is time for UEFA to decide if they want to face the risk of having more mistakes next year even though that can be prevented and make an investment that, in the worst case, won't pay off for a season or two, or not to invest that money and face trouble (and put pressure on the referees) for sure next season.

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    1. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:47

      Absolutely agreed with every word!!

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    2. Steve Smith2 May 2018 at 22:50

      It was not flawless by Skomina but there's no possible comparison with what happened yesterday in Madrid.

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  63. Unknown2 May 2018 at 22:48

    Seems to be onside

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  64. Steve Smith2 May 2018 at 22:48

    Footage of the alleged "clear handball", please?? Apart from that, can't see any crucial mistake. One thing is for sure: Skomina's performance did not decide who goes through to the final.

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  65. Rafalbowler2 May 2018 at 22:48

    Not one but 3 mistakes, missed penalty for Arnold hand ball, missed RED CARD, incorrect penalty in last min
    VAR is a MUST at every copmetitive level !!!

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  66. Chefren2 May 2018 at 22:49

    Before the final assignment, I want to say that this KO stage of Champions League has been characterised by too many mistakes.
    The big problem remains the detection of deliberate handballs, but there were also other significant and obvious mistakes.
    I will not blame referees, but surely a committee had to ensure a better officiating, I don't know how, but for sure they have some faults. I repeat that without VAR nowadays it is impossible to go on, but some mistakes had definitely to be avoided.
    In addition, there was a more than poor management of referees appointments.
    I waited before writing such harsh words, but we all expected more.

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  67. Soham2 May 2018 at 22:49

    The penalty awarded by Skomina at 93'... Just saw more replays... The hand is at the most natural position ever... Never ever a deliberate handball in a million years... I'm really sorry for Skomina but it was a poor performance in a rather easy game!!

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