Wednesday 7 July 2021

UEFA EURO 2020 Match 50: England - Denmark (discussion)

The fourth game of the tournament for Dutch Elite Danny Makkelie, in charge of England - Denmark EURO 2020 semifinal at Wembley. Let's comment his performance here. 


Semifinal
London, 7 July 2021 21:00 CET
ENGLAND - DENMARK
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Ovidiu Haţegan (ROU)
Fifth Official: Sebastian Eugen Gheorghe (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1: Kevin Blom (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 2: Christian Gittelmann (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 3: Pawel Gil (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Roberto Rosetti (ITA)
UEFA  Delegate: Myrsini Psarropoulou (GRE)

187 comments:

  1. Has a referee ever whistled a semi-final in his first tournament before Makkelie today?

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    1. Yes, Cakir in 2012. I would like to ask does Uefa investigate Kuipers after City Psg.

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    2. And before that Merk (GER) in 2000.
      Interesting, that since 1988 most EURO SF referee have participated in the previous World Cup.
      So indeed something special for Makkelie today.

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    3. Exactly like Merk - Opener and SF

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    4. Lannoy, Busacca, De Bleeckere...

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    5. ... were all at the previous World Cup. So it was their first EURO, but not their first big tournament.

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    6. Ah, ok. I misanderstood it

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  2. Karasev sent home (he published a post about it in his Instagram)

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  3. Before tournaments were expanded it was quite common for a referee's only appointment to be a SF, or a referee to be in charge of a SF in his first EURO

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  4. This will be a very tricky game for Makkelie, good luck to him and his team!

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  5. 4 out of 4 matches in blue kit for Makkelie - although today would have been a good opportunity for the black one.

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  6. Intense start with three fouls. Now ENG asked for IDFK because of a possible back pass. Challenging start for Makkelie!

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    1. Hard to find another intention in that back pass.
      But of course, normally only 100% back passes are punished, so there might have been some doubts.

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    2. I think it should have been an IDFK.
      Intention of defender is clear and he is in complete control

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  7. Step on foot. Reckless but right decision considering timing

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  8. How does everyone handle offensive player standing in front of keeper during corner kick? Allow them to stand but make sure they aren't obstructing keeper once ball is kicked?

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  9. I don't think Sunday's Brazil-Argentina match will be covered on this blog, right?

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    1. Now with EURO ending, maybe we can dedicate a discussion to that game, thanks for the remark.

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  10. Light free kick prior the goal

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  11. For me, when Mount's arm going over the top of Dolberg on a mini breakaway approaching the English box and then hitting Dolberg in the head, playing the man and not the man, and then no YC issued, it hurts my notion of the spirit of fair play. Refereeing is about keeping the game safe and fair for the players, being very lenient in refereeing sometimes goes against my idea of fairness.

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    1. But as sport is a form of entertainment, being lenient does make the match flow more and might make for a more entertaining match.

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  12. Not sure about free cick prior to goal

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  13. Makkelie appears to be following the approach taken by Brych yesterday... trying to avoid cards as long as he can.

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    1. That’s always his approach to be fair, even in the Dutch league

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  14. Shaw took a risk and got seen. The previous foul was for a careless shoulder/elbow

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  15. Commentators haven't seen that it was an own goal.

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  16. Those elbows are flying everywhere like it's a WWF match. This does not spark joy.

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  17. I enjoyed this fantastic first half of football, for me correct decision the free kick for 0-1, I would even praise the call. Foul was clear, but I agree that some referees wouldn't have whistled it.
    Regarding backpass earlier, supportable, I repeat what I often write on the blog when we saw such situations in past games: there aren't clear criteria, a referee is therefore allowed to apply his discretion, passing ball backwards isn't enough to say 100% backpass to keeper.

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    1. Yes, the energy is cracking. Both teams really want this one. There was foul call against Mount on Dolberg and then second foul call right after that. What was the call for?

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    2. For holding by Luke Shaw on a Denmark player, and the first foul whistled wasn’t even against mount but the Prior challenge that came in before mount came in with his Elbow which Makkelie told the players.

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    3. I have serious doubts that Shaw was still holding his opponent when the free kick was taken. If you freeze the image at the moment the first free kick was taken, his opponent is already on or near the ground.

      It's a difficult thing to be sure of either way, but I believe the correct decision would have been to caution Shaw and then order the re-take of the first free kick. Moving the kick up to the second location and avoiding the caution was probably easier, but it doesn't make it correct.

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  18. Excellent first half and beautiful game to watch which Makkelie has contributed too, I now see why UEFA trust this types of referees!!! They are really not by the books and try to avoid yellow cards as much as possible and that is certainly what UEFA likes and sometimes it help make a fantastic Football match, Their motto would be as long as it’s not mandatory avoid the card!!!!

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    1. Why does a card make a match worse?

      Like, what makes a game with 2 cards better than one with 6 cards?

      This line of reasoning has always baffled me.

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    2. Well, cards slow down a match since it must be stopped to have the cards administered, and a carded player must play more cautiously afterwards to prevent another card, and less cards also probably mean that it will be a more physical game.

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  19. The interesting question on the 0-1 free kick is, whether that foul happened before or after the free kick execution. There seems to be a good chance, that the holding was already finished at the moment of the kick, but one can't be sure from the pictures shown so far.
    And it's probably a point, that doesn't matter for most viewers...

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  20. Easier match than yesterday, teams focused on football. Makkelie did what he had to do, avoided some possible YCs and did well in foul recognition - supportable FK prior to 0-1. Overall, expected level performance so far in my book.

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    1. Predictable outcome giving the leniency around the use of arms in 1h. It had to escalate.

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    2. It's not really an escalation, though - one reckless foul does not create an overheating match. It was a reasonable intervention at this time.

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    3. The use of arms was becoming increasingly reckless, largely due to leniency. That's what I meant.

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  22. Makklie sorting out always both cards before showing it to players, creates a very particular wait :D
    Correct decision with the yellow, for me reckless.

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    1. and you always see the red one first. not really optimal for the audience who could always think briefly that a sending off will follow

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  23. Yeah, like yesterday, he had to show a card. Getting scrappy out there now. So much at stake.

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  24. Steegstra's mistake. The ball hasn't fully crossed the line, when goal kick was awarded

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  25. Interesting to think about the politics of refereeing: calling by the book or being more lenient, the latter perhaps being one's personal preference but perhaps also influenced by what one thinks committees, coaches, players, and fans like to see. Just thinking about Cakir looking so sharp but still being sent home...

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  26. Wonderful video of Grealish's skills that came out this week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7rADGSrLYE&t=145s. He looks like Messi or Neymar in it.

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  27. It's funny, lots of players expecting fouls that never come, stopping play for a second before continuing. They don't seem used to Makkelie's fluid approach.

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  28. No YC for luke shaw at 70 but YC for Wass at 72. Interesting usage of cards.

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    1. Ye shocking few minutes there

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    2. I don't think it was very clear SPA but more of an expected decision.

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  29. Now previous foul whistled by Makkelie against attacker, otherwise possible penalty. VAR checked the call.

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  30. Need to see replay again but did look like Kane touched the ball first so possible PK call.

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  31. That is NEVER a YC for Wass

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  32. Not enough for PK. Immediate decision by Makkelie absolutely correct.

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  33. But the foul he whistled before... There I am not so sure...

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  34. Oof my hunch was that this was a clear penalty at 74' - I'm not convinced the defender plays the ball (and therefore I'd treat it as a trip by the Danish, not a kick by the English). I would think that the FK was a mistake, but that with the bar for VAR intervention being very high, Makkelie's interpretation is plausible, if not particularly convincing.

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  35. 73’ clear PK for me, after 3 times watching. But : if England finally wins, Danny will again get away with it. What does Roberto, official observer, think about this ? I know the answer : no problem Danny ; your ‘feeling’ given the context was right. Blablabla

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    1. because it wasn’t a foul

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  37. Never a penalty. There is no discussion for me, Kane fouled the defeder. But if you are english, it could look different.

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  38. Very clear penalty but it makes no different since they called the foul that happened prior to Kane getting the ball. Seems many missed that.

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  39. One commentator said, "He knows what's coming" after shirt pull, the other said, "I'm surprised he hasn't been yellow carded for that." But they don't know Makkelie/Brych style yet...

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    1. Ye the commentators are ridiculously bias

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  40. Clear YC missed against Poulsen (SPA/LoR).

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  41. Commentator just said that England hasn't reached final of major competition in two long generations. Was '66 cup victory their last final?

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    1. They've actually never reached a EURO final.

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    2. I talked to an English friend today and said that England has more talent than I can remember in a long time and that they could win against Italy should they play them in the final, and he said that Italy have a habit of finding a way to win, so I think he didn't want to get his hopes up.

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  42. Personally though the no penalty call was excellent. A very difficult situation to interpret though and I doubt it would have been overturned if given.
    Poulsen for me was a yc though

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    1. Someone in the crowd, judging by the hand gestures maybe a laser pen or something?

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  44. Regarding the possilbe penalty, I think that Makkelie's decision is spot on. The DEN defender is (despite not playing the ball) earlier and actually steps in front of Kane. The English kicks the DEN player in the calf. I also think that Makkelie whistled this as a foul, not the scene prior to that.

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  45. About possible PK /Jane. Even without the (IMO doubtful) offensive foul Makkelie whistled the little contact for me never enough for foulPK/Kane!

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    1. Saw it again. Not sure anymore... Very hard one.

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  47. Supportable penalty call but not entirely clear.

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  48. Dive deciding a SF, why, why, why.

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    1. This will be a scandal after the match, sorry to say it that clear.

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  49. Sorry but this isn’t enough for a PK on semi-finals extra time. Too soft…

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  50. AWFUL DECISION

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  51. Omg. Very very soft penalty. Too less for me. Ref deciding this SF. Pity

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    1. Soft? There was no contact at all!

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    2. Sorry, there is minimal contact, but this is one awful mistake.

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  52. No penalty for me. Wrong decision by Makkelie

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  53. Scandalous decision by the Dutch!

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  54. I hate to be rude to the officials but after watching Felix Brych yesterday i’ve never seen such an awful refereeing performance in a semi final

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  55. Did the guys in Nyon leave After Full-time?

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  56. For me no penalty and more a dive by Sterling.

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  57. For me penalty, soft contact, but enough for penalty, becouse he obviously stop him and stop his movement.

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  58. I can’t believe my eyes. I think this was even softer than Turpin’s and Lahoz’s penalties.

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    1. You are probably right, but even those PK's were not changed by VAR. Maybe a a point for improvement in the future, I think VAR could intervene in those situations.

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    2. And maybe also time for VAR OUT? Because I actually don't see how it is helpful to the game in this form now. Just takes the raw emotions of the game and slows it down. What is the difference if the referee on the field will make a mistake or the referee in the VAR room?

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  59. Again a shameful penalty.

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  60. How VAR didn’t intervene, unbelievable!

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  61. In my view this is even a scene for VAR. Sterling was deceiving the referee. I am very curious about the final appointment. Van Boekel as VAR?

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  62. How can you whistle such a penalty in the ET of a semi final? Sterling was looking only for that!

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  63. VERY soft PK, I would tend to call it wrong. The attacker realizes that he cannot come to a promising opportunity anymore and goes down on his own accord. The light contact is not enough to justify
    the falling of the attacker IMO. Due to the contact, not enough for the VAR I think.

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    1. I disagree; Sterling was looking for the contact, he did not fall for that, he clearly dived.
      Referees should be prepared when you deal with a player that usually dives, look what he did also in the own goal

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  64. Thats why they didnt want cakir on the SF

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  65. Who will be VAR for the final now...?

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  66. Why didn‘t VAR intervene? This must never be a penalty, and definetly not in a SF of a European Championship. I‘m shocked that this probably will decide who goes through to the final. Exactly for such situations VAR was introduced.

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    1. I was expecting an OFR and a YC for simulation actually...

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  67. Saw it again. How it’s possible to Van Poekel to confirm this DIVE and not invited ref to OFR ? Unbelievable decision.

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  68. Sorry, but this penalty just decides EURO semifinal match. Unacceptable. Too soft, can't believe there was not VAR intervention!

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  69. No clear error so no VAR intervention. But imo way too soft, not the way this match should be decided. Maybe Makkelie is a bit impressed by pressure from the crowd?

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  70. Not a penalty, and likely simulation. Poor decision but even poorer no intervention

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  71. This is karma for terrible treatment of Cakir!

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  72. Why the hell... in such an important stage of the match... not go to review area and rewatch it...?

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  73. This was so soft. VAR was terrible.

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  74. No PK for me, Plus 2 balls on the pitch at the time too? Nightmare for Makkellie & team tonight imo.

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  75. This is not even close to being supportable, scandalous that VAR didn’t intervene

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  76. Van Boekel should not appointed as VAR in the final

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  77. And don’t tell me to support Makkelie and VAR here because this PK is softer than Turpin and Lahoz decisions !

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  78. Sterling dive 100%. UEFA is pushing England to the final. Shameful decision by VAR.

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  79. After VAR output shown on the TV, it's really a huge mistake to give a penalty. Can't really understand the VAR not calling him to review the decision...

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  80. There’s contact knee on knee, the angle from behind shows this clearly. It’s a clear trip IMO I don’t understand how someone can say this ain’t a penalty after seeing that angle.

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    1. Because the dive is before…

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    2. By the contact Sterling had already started falling and looking for a penalty

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    3. There is no trip he puts his leg out put Sterling dives over the leg CHEATING!! is the correct term

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    4. The touch (if any) comes after the dive

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    5. Sorry but Sterling is clearly diving before this very soft contact. Had to be OFR and no penalty. Makkelie is overestimated about himself as AR’s Portugal affair showed it.

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    6. Watching the replay, CLEAR PK!

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  81. Joke penalty. Cant believe it.

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  82. If I was the referee and there was any doubt about a massive decision like this I would want to see it for myself again.
    The bar for penalty intervention has been set ludicrously high

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  83. Im shocked by the comments on this blog this evening (and this EURO actually).

    There was some contact, so never VAR stuff! Do I like the penalty given? No, it is not in line with the decisions in this tournament. Clear mistake? Mwa.

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    1. Absolutely clear mistake.

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    2. I can see your point. But for me it can also be a clear and obvious mistake when there is a contact which never can cause a player‘s fall. Football is a contact sport and not every touch is a foul so therefore VAR could and should intervene as well in such situations IMO

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  84. For me pk decision is correct.

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  85. Am I wrong or there were 2 balls on The pitch before penalty? Anyway, never a penalty.

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    1. Yes, 2 balls were on the pitch. Joke penalty

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    2. Watching football since 2006, absolutely never seen a Match which hasn't been stopped with 2 balls and a chance created in that area. Which are The rules in this kind of situations?

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  86. VAR exists exactly for this situations. He didn’t use it, unbelievable. If you one rookie the semifinal, its obvious that he is gonna effected from crowd at some stage,

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  87. We saw the VAR output now. They actually just showed one of the smallest contact I've seen in recent time to justify that call - that CANNOT be a penalty, ENG player wanted to manipulate Makkelie and succeeded.
    Rosetti has a problem now, when chosing the VAR team for the final.

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  88. Realy it is penalty? Funny XD

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  89. On the other angle looks minimal contact,but not sure its enough for penalty

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  90. At the beginning of the tournament I thought, the high bar for VAR-intervention was pretty nice compared to interventions in my domestic league, but not making Makkelie re-watch his decision here ins such an important match is a pity for sportsmanship.

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  91. I am absolutely livid at this decision and even more so by the VAR. Absolutely disgraceful

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  92. Let’s see English “objective” journals now! They criticized everyone for simulation - let us see whether they will do the same for this Sterling’s diving. I will tek you right now: NO!!!

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  93. Roberto Rosetti (June 2021): "We don't want to give soft penalties at EURO 2020, we want clear penalties."

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  94. This is really embarrassing, UEFA.

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  95. In an extratime of EURO HF the referee is not told to have a look at that again???? Unbelievable and... SAD!

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  96. According to the referee is mentioned a lot of times in the LOTG. This a textbook example of that phrase.

    There is contact. Therefore it makes it almost impossible for the VAR to call it a crucial mistake and invite Makkelie for a OFR.

    The contact is soft, the dive is beautiful and makes it look like diving. Personally to little for me to whistle a penalty. But I can understand why Makkelie gives it.

    Also wandering if there are other angles from where we get the view of Makkelie and maybe get a total different view on the situation. Like in CZE-DEN with corner leading to the first danish goal.

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  97. Poor poor performance from the whole refereeing team in OT specially Dannie og Pol

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  98. VAR has to be allowed to intervene here. I can understand the location of the incident is maybe a tough angle for Makkelie, so I can understand his reason to whistle. But NO REASON, especially in Euro SF, to not allow VAR to intervene and save both the crew and the match. That’s the real scandal here IMO.

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  99. Manuel Gräfe said something like: "I think he was still a bit impressed by the no penalty call against Kane." Gräfe supported the incident with Kane, saying it was not enough (and I agree with that) but did not agree with the penalty given.

    I don't want to exaggerate but I think UEFA (Rosetti) and Makkelie have a problem now.

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  100. Lahoz had similar situation and he handled the pressure well.
    Makkelie.. I dont know what to say.

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  101. Poor performance by Makkelie today.

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  102. Rosetti made a risky choice and lost. Will someone talk about good refereeing in this euro after today's incident?

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  103. No wonder why players still try to simulate a penalty. It worked in the EURO semifinal.

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    1. Totally agree. If the VAR protocol does not change, players will keep looking for soft contacts, mostly causing them or just diving. The protocol can be Crystal clear: “did the player fall because of the contact?”. In this case is extremely easy: of course not!

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  104. No penalty for me, really bad decision

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  105. I agree with everyone.
    On another note, did no one see the second ball? Sterling was almost colliding with that ball... at one point there wasn't even a meter between them.

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  106. Oh look more messages deleted, i don’t know who is deleting it but I would love to know why

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  107. I can understand a mistake by Makkelie (even though giving PK is still a quite poor decision)

    I can't understand the non-intervention. At this point there's no way that a referee is getting called to review a PK decision because of 'contact'. It's a clear mistake, period.

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  108. Spain's penalty was not awarded yesterday. They were eliminated.
    Today, Comedy PK.

    UEFA designed the final.

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  109. So. Van Boekel VAR for the final???

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  110. Watching the replay from behind Sterling, it's a clear PK from Maehle!

    Makkelie haters are looking rather foolish.

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  111. I told Makkelie is very poor referee and He is overrated.

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    1. Makkelie is a very good ref. The overrated one is Brych.

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  112. I watched it 3 times i still cant the the foul.

    Kane scored assist Makkelie

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  113. According to some sources England didnt want Cakir. poor denmark ll eliminate by this funny penalty

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  114. If makkeile watched any match of Sterling, he would/should never gave it. He is one of the most divers in the world. But VAR could save him but they didn’t, this is the problem.

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  115. Maybe UEFA will be happy with no intervention from VAR team, but I don't agree. You must referee in spirit of the game, not 100% strictly by the rules.
    If they invited Makkelie for OFR and if he changed his decision absolutely no one would talk about that after match.
    For neutral fans no penalty is absolutely acceptable or for most of them correct decision.

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  116. I wonder how Rosetti feels in the stadium now. I am sorry for Makkelie, there will be a lot coming on and he will get the information by Roberto Rosetti himself...

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  117. Someone said UEFA designed the final yet I can’t state that Makkelie has had a poor game

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  118. Congratulations to Rosetti for making VAR useless! NOONE can convince me that any contact is enough to not intervene. This is completely against what Rosetti wants, so it is paradoxal situation. At least they could use it to sell the decision in these situations. The situation with Cakir (and Orsato yelling at him) in Russia that we could see as an example recently is a perfect example. Look at it, decide, and it will be more credible.

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  119. Sterling was contacted twice before the penalty was called on the third touch. Maybe no single contact justified a penalty, but if each one caused him to become a little more off balance, I can easily justify they penalty.

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  120. Cakir wouldn't have whistled that scandolous of a pen. This is on you UEFA.

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