Referee appointments for the first set of 2021/22 FIFA WC European Qualifiers MD10 (14 November 2021).
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| Danny Makkelie to officiate Croatia - Russia |
Group H
15:00 CET - Ta' Qali (National Stadium)
MALTA - SLOVAKIA
Referee: Fran Jović (CRO)
Assistant Referee 1: Hrvoje Radić (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Bojan Zobenica (CRO)
Fourth Official: Dario Bel (CRO)
Video Assistant Referee: Duje Strukan (CRO)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Mario Zebec (CRO)
FIFA Referee Assessor: Stephen Lodge (ENG)
FIFA Match Commissioner: Łukasz Sojski (POL)
Group H
15:00 CET - Ljubljana (Stadion Stožice)
SLOVENIA - CYPRUS
Referee: Sergei Ivanov (RUS)
Assistant Referee 1: Roman Usachev (RUS)
Assistant Referee 2: Valeriy Danchenko (RUS)
Fourth Official: Vladislav Bezborodov (RUS)
Video Assistant Referee: Vitaliy Meshkov (RUS)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Igor Demeshko /RUS)
FIFA Referee Assessor: Bernardino González Vázquez (ESP)
FIFA Match Commissioner: Vito Di Gioia (ITA)
Group H
15:00 CET - Split (Stadion Poljud)
CROATIA - RUSSIA
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Dennis Higler (NED)
Video Assistant Referee: Pol van Boekel (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Clay Ruperti (NED)
FIFA Referee Assessor: Matteo Simone Trefoloni (ITA)
FIFA Match Commissioner: Balázs Makray (HUN)
Group J
18:00 CET - Vaduz (Rheinpark Stadion)
LIECHTENSTEIN - ROMANIA
Referee: Matej Jug (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Matej Zunic (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Manuel Vidali (SVN)
Fourth Official: David Smajc (SVN)
Video Assistant Referee: Nejc Kajtazovic (SVN)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alen Borosak (SVN)
FIFA Referee Assessor: Petteri Kari (FIN)
FIFA Match Commissioner: Markku Lehtola (FIN)
Group J
18:00 CET - Yerevan (Republican Stadium after Vazgen Sargsyan)
ARMENIA - GERMANY
Referee: François Letexier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Cyril Mugnier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mehdi Rahmouni (FRA)
Fourth Official: Jérémy Stinat (FRA)
Video Assistant Referee: Jérémie Pignard (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Eric Wattellier (FRA)
FIFA Referee Assessor: Leslie Irvine (NIR)
FIFA Match Commissioner: Igor Radojičić (SRB)
Group J
18:00 CET - Skopje (National Arena Todor Proeski)
NORTH MACEDONIA - ICELAND
Referee: Davide Massa (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Daniele Bindoni (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefano Alassio (ITA)
Fourth Official: Simone Sozza (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Fedayi San (SUI)
FIFA Referee Assessor: Marinus Koopman (NED)
FIFA Match Commissioner: Claude Runavot (FRA)
Group A
20:45 CET - City of Luxembourg (Stade de Luxembourg)
LUXEMBOURG - REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Referee: Tamás Bognár (HUN)
Assistant Referee 1: Balázs Buzás (HUN)
Assistant Referee 2: Péter Kóbor (HUN)
Fourth Official: Balázs Berke (HUN)
Video Assistant Referee: Katalin Anna Kulcsár (HUN)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: István Vad (HUN)
FIFA Referee Assessor: Zoran Petrović (SRB)
FIFA Match Commissioner: Diana Andersen (DEN)
Group A
20:45 CET - Lisbon (Estádio do Sport Lisboa e Benfica)
PORTUGAL - SERBIA
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Ciro Carbone (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Giorgio Peretti (ITA)
Fourth Official: Marco Di Bello (ITA)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Paolo Valeri (ITA)
FIFA Referee Assessor: Herbert Fandel (GER)
FIFA Match Commissioner: Christian Kofoed (DEN)
Group B
20:45 CET - Athens (Olympic Athletic Center "Spyros Louis")
GREECE - KOSOVO
Referee: Aleksei Kulbakov (BLR)
Assistant Referee 1: Dzmitry Zhuk (BLR)
Assistant Referee 2: Aleh Maslianka (BLR)
Fourth Official: Dzmitry Dzmitryieu (BLR)
Video Assistant Referee: Sergei Karasev (RUS)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Aleksei Lunev (RUS)
FIFA Referee Assessor: Raymond Ellingham (WAL)
FIFA Match Commissioner: David Pugh (ENG)
Group B
20:45 CET - Seville (La Cartuja de Sevilla)
SPAIN - SWEDEN
Referee: Felix Brych (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Mark Bosch (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Fourth Official: Harald Lechner (AUT)
Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Sascha Stegemann (GER)
FIFA Referee Assessor: Nikolai Levnikov (RUS)
FIFA Match Commissioner: Tarik Shamel (ENG)
Friendly
18:00 CET - Baku (Olimpiya Stadionu)
AZERBAIJAN - QATAR
Referee: Donatas Rumšas (LTU)
Assistant Referee 1: Aleksandr Radius (LTU)
Assistant Referee 2: Dovydas Sužiedėlis (LTU)
Fourth Official: Elchin Masiyev (AZE)
Does anyone else not rate Makkelie? Can’t understand why he gets all these big gy
ReplyDeleteWho would be your alternative? I don't see many alternatives for the 5 'big' games.
DeleteMakkelie is one of the most calm and confident refs. Natural authority, always well respected by players. That's a good sign IMO.
I like him because he does not take any BS from any player and he respects the laws of the game.
DeleteI agree. A no nonsense referee. With him you’re never afraid that the match will be a mess. Safe hands for UEFA and FIFA.
DeleteBecause he is an excellent referee
ReplyDeleteLogical appointment. Makkelie is indeed strong, calm and confident. He is one of the few big personalities we have in UEFA refereeing. Like others he’s not faultless, but for sure one of the most accurate referees today. He makes few mistakes and rarely stands in front of the VAR monitor. And he is only 38 years old.
DeleteYes It always amazes me how rarely he looks at the VAR. He really has a good eye.
DeleteGood to see Brych. I like him and his style a lot and gonna miss him next year.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, it is significant and worrying that apparantly no other refs are fully trusted. The successor(s) are not ready yet?
So I was wrong: we have Brych in a crucial game. I didn't expect him, he will be very likely the only referee not attending WC, but getting such a match. Lechner fourth official is very likely another replacement inside the German team, there has been a replacement in under 21 for Foltyn as well. Maybe something related to COVID issues happened in a German domestic game, involving several people.
ReplyDeleteOrsato was expected in Portugal: particular to see different assistant referees, and not the classic choice with Giallatini and Preti. I think that the selection for them is still open. For such a big game, a directy play off, I would have expected the classic trio, but as we pointed out on the blog some days ago, very often Italian assistant referees are appointed differently from other countries. There are many names who are very good, Carbone and Peretti surely two of them, they would deserve WC, as well as Meli.
Then, I think we will see Guida on next days in a game, otherwise he would have worked as VAR in Massa game. Very good game for the latter in North Macedonia, now the home-team can qualify for play-offs with a win, after having reached second place yesterday.
Not really important game in Armenia but an opportunity of development for Letexier, with different results, Armenia could have been in contention for second place, so we can read this appointment as quite good for the French.
Kulbakov: Greece - Kosovo, not a game for an Elite referee... but at least he gets something, there are names in a by far worse situation!
Regarding Orsato, in my opinion, his designation could have been expected, otherwise a feasible alternative would have been Sweden-Spain.
DeleteOn the other hand, I am surprised that the assistants will be Carbone and Peretti. I’m not disputing their value, absolutely not! Of course Chefren, you know the “Italian referees world” better than us, but at this point, in a very important match like that, it doesn’t make any sense to change the path in this way. To me, one year before the World Cup, this can probably mean that one of Giallatini and Preti won’t be part of the WC group.
If I had to make a prediction, in light of previous designations, I would say Giallatini and one of Carbone or Peretti.
In addition, let me tell ya, if Orsato is often changing his assistants, maybe it means he doesn’t trust Giallatini and Preti at all. What you reckon?
Like Chefren, I also follow Italy and above all I follow Orsato (I like him as a referee), I don't think it is a question of him not trusting Giallatini and Preti, but I think more that FIFA is making '' selection ''. Orsato was assisted by Giallatini and Preti also in Italy last season in important matches.
DeleteSo Mark Bosch with a game In 2 days! I will dare say he has amounted a vast amount of experience in his career!! He has been everywhere… very good for him. Will he continue after Brych?? Any info to that
ReplyDelete2 games*
DeleteHe will stay on the FIFA list at least for the next year, yes.
Deletehttps://www.uefa.com/returntoplay/news/026f-13b418fbd2bb-846027274356-1000--bjorn-kuipers-appointed-as-a-uefa-refereeing-officer-and-member/
ReplyDeleteKuipers appointed as a Uefa Refereeing Officer and Member.
Bjorn Kuipers is a New Refereeing Officer for UEFA and a member of the referees committee.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.uefa.com/returntoplay/news/026f-13b418fbd2bb-846027274356-1000--bjorn-kuipers-appointed-as-a-uefa-refereeing-officer-and-member/
Scene from Brazil-Columbia.
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/8jgszj
I can't believe that Tobar had zero reaction on that. Unbelievable how much some referees tolerate for Neymar. I know it's only the 9th minute, but perfectly undermining Tobar's reputation. At least a YC for dissent should have been given with strong presence, but I would prefer a RC for such a confrontation and deliberate act by Neymar. (I know probably 1 out 10 referees would do it, because they want to avoid spotlight what I can understand on international stage, but this is just way too much tolerance. No sanction is simply unacceptable.)
What is your opinion?
I think, the ref's behavior was the right choice as he showed a strong presence and a strong behave. A red card would be simply wrong imo. A YC would be extreme in this minute. It’s a question of charisma. And with this clear gesture, a ref simply has every legitimacy to sanction every later conduct.
DeleteI may be in the minority, but I agree it should be a RC. It’s great to ‘manage’ situations, where possible, but a line has to be drawn. Here the player walks from distance, aggressively and publicly arguing and deliberately makes contact with the official. Clearly trying to intimidate. For me this has to be a RC and the sooner the authorities insist on it (and support refs who do it) the better.
Delete“What you permit, you promote”
So, we could see Vincic and Lahoz for POL-HUN && NED-NOR
ReplyDeleteNED - NOR was already revealed for Turpin.
DeletePoland - Hungary is a chance for Mateu Lahoz, indeed, but I think MD10 in Group D with France as well. In any case, the Spanish, as well as Cakir, didn't get a very crucial game.
Cakir got a quite important Germany - Romania some matchdays ago, but nothing else.
Just to point out an observation: both were in charge of the very discussed WC play off Italy - Sweden four years ago.
I don't know if this can be a reason at least for Mateu in order to be kept away from a very big game, but it is likely in my opinion. One could have indeed expected him. About Cakir, we know things are a bit different than four years ago, so the same reasoning can't be made.
Poland vs. Hungary will be a dead rubber - unless England don't beat Albania and Poland don't win in Andorra, which seems unlikely to me.
DeleteAnd to be honest - my feeling is that UEFA (and FIFA) are now ready to, as they have for Çakır, 'phase out' Mateu :/... I hope I'm wrong though!
Indeed, I forgot that NED-NOR was revealed already. Sorry for my mistake.
DeleteLahoz to Montenegro-Turkey
ReplyDeleteOT: some clips from the Korea Republic vs. United Arab Emirates game from AFC zone, handled by Mǎ Níng from China [VAR: Makhadmah].
ReplyDelete11' - tackle by UAE no.11; sanction?
https://streamable.com/sxqzo4
24' - potential penalty to UAE (holding)
https://streamable.com/lxa135
34' - penalty given to KOR (tripping)
https://streamable.com/9wk3fk
79' - potential penalty to KOR (tackle)
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1gT4y1R7cx?t=5866.8
IMO
Delete11' Reckless challenge with open studs contact, YC to be given
24' Theoretically, this is a penalty for me. The defender wants to bring the ball out of the dangerous area, loses position a bit and simply grabs the opponent's shirt. However, the referee took the 'safer' opportunity I think. Taking into consideration the whole appearance of the scene (position, little actual contact) whistling a spotkick would probably arouse more controversies.
34' The player is really 'looking for the contact' and the falling seems exaggerated for me. But I can't deny the unclever action by the defender with no realistic chance to reach the ball properly; I would support Ma Ning.
79' Difficult to assess the role of the ball here. The defender goes in that duel quite hazardously - he touches the ball with the right foot but with the left trailing leg he also hits the attacker I think; I would go for the penalty based on that assumption.
Malta - Slovakia IMO a clear penalty in 3' - missed by both the ref and VAR. Don't have a clip though.
ReplyDeleteThanks for this report, will check when full match will be available for download.
DeleteFrom where?
DeleteLooks indeed like clear tripping (~4:00 btw)
DeleteOFR in SVN-CYP around 25' and a goal disallowed. Offside was clear, who had passed the ball not so much on live television coverage. Can you find some better replays?
ReplyDeleteClip of the scene:
Deletehttps://streamable.com/qvodzw
In my opinion still not clear who touched ball as last, but in case it was opponent, so it is backpass and therefore no offside. I don't understand based on what they surely assessed that the last touch was by teammate, in doubt they should have left pitch decision. Also, last touch is factual decision, in my opinion the OFR is not needed, if you can't understand who touched last you should only support.
DeleteAnother explanation for the OFR could be that - with higher resolution images - it was clear for VAR that it was the attacker who touched the ball last —> offside, but the firm two-leg tackle was deemed an offence. The OFR being executed to let the referee decide for defensive IFK for offside or attacking DFK for the tackle (as after a check the final decision should be correct)? A bit far-fetched, but could it be like this?
DeleteA former FIFA referee Robert Krajnc found the decision to be correct, stressing that the defensive player hadn't controlled the ball.
DeleteHm, that sounds like the wrong argument. The question should only be whether it is deliberate play or a deflection - and the sliding tackle looked like deliberate play. But if that was indeed the relevant question for the officials, the OFR makes sense.
DeleteAgreed, that's why I wrote what he had said on TV. Anyway, overall Ivanov did a good job in a not demanding match, all bookings were spot on, the match was under control.
Delete35 minutes so far in CRO-RUS, easy match for Makkelie so far, teams are playing clean football, only one verbal warning to CRO #6.
ReplyDeleteNow correct booking to Golovin, 51'.
Delete55'too muxh complaining from Smolov, he also gets booked.
DeleteAbsolutely farcical 2H in prospect now in Osijek.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe what I'm watching... Makkelie EXCELLENT so far, he has a huge task on his hands in the (many) remaining minutes.
DeleteDid you mean in Split? :)
Delete:) - of course. 7,9 for me :D.
DeleteThis game with Croatia and Russia has to be stopped. The pitch looks like it was laid on a river.
ReplyDeleteIts not bad enough for that, but yes, very difficult to play.
DeleteIt's turning out to be like sumo wrestling in a swimming pool
DeleteNah, no way, it made the match more epic!
DeleteAnyone saw what is happening in Malta? Two 2nd YC in very short period...
ReplyDeleteDont know, Jovic in short period showed 2 RC's to Malta players.
DeleteLooks like Malta is playing little too rough for football terms.
Dissent is the main problem here. Opening card in 5' was given for dissent after a Maltese penalty appeal was turned down. Slovakia scored the next minute.
DeleteFirst SYC came 45 seconds after the break, reckless challenge. Not with any ill intentions, but high and late.
Second SYC was for clear SPA holding followed by verbal dissent and kicking the ball away slightly twice. Rare you see two bookings for this and if this were a bigger game, many would be furious for sure.
@Howard Maxi
DeleteSounds a bit like Aytekin style :D
Just now watched a short video "The weather conditions in the game between Croatia and Russia" and I really understand the difficulty of keeping this under control, then add that is crucial for qualification to WC. A day that Makkelie will not forget! These are surely the epic games, very dirty. Hope he is doing well, I can't watch.
ReplyDeleteThe craziest individual scene: https://streamable.com/5db9up
DeleteChefren said it perfectly. An epic game, which required an epic refereeing performance - Makkelie delivered that (besides compensation of lost additional time in the 2H ;)).
A genuine pleasure to watch; respect!
https://ss.sport-express.ru/userfiles/materials/173/1731723/origin.jpg
DeleteIn HD :D
Deletehttps://streamable.com/8vkso0
Good performance by Makkelie. Not even a signle complaint by the losing side. Honestly, not many decisions to make but still the game was fully under control.
DeletePerfect ref for a game like that. The Dutch are used to rainy conditions :D
ReplyDeleteAnyone saw the penalty given by Castane in Congo - Benin? Unbelievable! I do not have a clip, but the game is on FIFA Youtube.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqNJCMNYMGI&feature=onebox
Delete00:12, a holding, according to his gestures...
Correctly turned away penalty appeal (handling) for MKD by Davide Massa (26').
ReplyDeleteVery tight offside call of Stefano Alassio confirmed by the Swiss VMOs denying a potential 2-0 goal (41').
DeletePotential penalty to MKD rightly not given (51') and onside call(s) by Alassio for the equalising goal (56') scrutinised by Schärer and team, who found in the Italian's favour again.
DeleteWeird VAR protocol again in this Qualifiers this time Jug!!! He stopped play just to listen to VAR after about 20 Seconds now decided to go over. I thought when you are stopping the game it’s definitely to go for OFR ..
ReplyDeleteIf it happened in this way as you described, absolutely wrong!
DeleteReferee must be sure before taking such important decision of stopping play!
Yes, similar to Taylor, but without the players running to him (probably they didn't even know, what was checked).
DeleteFurthermore he took the ball to the OFR - that's also unusual, I think.
Sounds like a typical Jug, often a bit capricious :D
DeleteI was about to report a quiet 1H for Letexier in ARM-GER but now, in injury time, we have penalty + YC (DOGSO) after OFR.
ReplyDeleteOtherwise, not too much to do for the Frenchman who showed an expected-level performance so far IMO.
DeleteSecond penalty by Letexier whistled on-field and supported by VAR (58'); completely correct IMO, stamp on foot.
DeleteThe match offered no further challenges for Letexier, one correct YC (reckless stamp) in 68' is all I can report.
DeleteIn total, a good display shown by the French officials for me.
OFR in Armenia by Letexier to possible penalty for Germany.
ReplyDeleteOFR in Armenia - Germany: https://streamja.com/2z2or
ReplyDeleteNever a clear and obvious mistake in my opinion. See how referee was in trouble for deciding.
IMO penalty is the 'better' outcome: the defender isn't really able to play the ball (maybe he touches it) and hits the attacker from behind quite clumsily.
DeleteHowever, I also have some doubts about VAR activity here; you could see that Letexier was a bit indecisve (not really 'wanting' it but also in trouble not giving it because the pictures seem clear).
But is it so difficult to understand the concept: clear and evident error ?
DeleteThe amount of time the entire check takes says it all I think. From the moment of the tackle (43’05) to the moment Letexier makes the VAR-signal (45’45) almost 2 minutes and 40 seconds have passed. That’s quite a long time for checking a ‘clear and obvious’ situation, when no other critical aspects in the APP need to be checked.
DeleteIMO a big mistake by VAR Pignard, never a VAR stuff.
DeleteFor me, even if the defender gets a little touch on the ball, this is a clear PK. So I'm in the minority here, but i think VARint was correct. Yesterday we were talking about a somewhat similiar incident that resulted in a RC. What are the considerations for no penalty kick?
DeleteI rewatched the whole sequence again and there is no doubt whatsoever for me that the attacker gets to the ball and the defender does not. In the end the right decision was made IMO, but the VAR output was really bad, especially the first angle shown. In a replay at 44:30 (the second one) it is very clear, and if Letexier would have seen that angle, he would not need 10 seconds to make a decision IMO.
DeleteIf anyone wants to see it again, skip to minute 55 in the player: https://streamlare.com/v/b8K02DPW1r6nygB1
DeleteIndeed, a blatant foul from this perspective, no doubt at all.
DeleteDoes anyone have clips of 2 RCs from Malta - Slovakia?
ReplyDeleteMLT-SVK (1st RC-Camenzuli)
Deletehttps://streamable.com/oh9g07
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MLT-SVK (2nd RC-Teuma)
https://streamable.com/saq1ld
Thank you for the clips keyNote! The second SYC is indeed special. I don't see many referees showing two YC so quickly. I would prefer just one YC and a warning.
DeleteFor sure the second YC could have been managed better, of course not a wrong decision if we isolate both calls, but after the card referee would have had the opportunity to work differently.
DeleteAlso, was the action to blatant to deserve immmediately a second YC? I'm always in favor of harsh referees, definitely, but in this case, too much.
Definitely Aytekins style! But not wrong itself.
DeleteYou are Welcome @David
DeleteMassa is having some match.
ReplyDelete10 bookings, 1 red card, lots of complaints from players.
Well, crucial fir N. Macedonia so you would expect that.
Hahahaaaa this is not foul against Serbian player??? Reallyyyyyy? Just incredible!!!
ReplyDeleteIntense start in Portugal Serbia, 1-0 and YC for the Serbia coach
ReplyDeleteNow borderline YC for #20 Portugal. High speed foot on foot
ReplyDeleteClear foul missed by Orsato. Crucial mistake.
ReplyDeletehttps://streamable.com/gtbl40
ReplyDeletePossible foul before 1-0. Never VAR stuff, in case Orsato should have whistled it by himself.
https://streamable.com/fp6ya8
DeleteLong sequence (thank to Key Note)
Never a foul, normal play.
DeleteHere you can watch full replay
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x85iw4y
https://streamable.com/vn1ldp
DeleteNo foul for me.
DeleteGood decision
DeleteClear foul for me.
DeleteYou are welcome @Chefren
DeleteThe situation should be that Portuguese player puts his leg and then touches slightly the ball. Then the defender collides with his foot while walking. A foul for this reason can be whistled, but surely not enough for VAR. Serbian defender could have been more clever, I think expected decision in this situation is calling foul, but playing on is not a mistake.
DeleteNot mistake? Wow, he puts his leg, and Serbian defender can't kick the ball because of it. We need to be real.
DeleteIf I am not mistaken, Bernardo gets a little touch on the ball. So no foul IMO.
DeleteCorrect goal for me as well, just a normal football challenge and attacker touching the ball before the defender went down.
DeleteIMO no foul and good decision
DeleteAlready 4 YC after 13 minutes, well done by Orsato
ReplyDeleteOrsato in trouble already to keep emotions down. Could be a hard evening. High intensity in each tackle
ReplyDeleteMAMA MIA Daniele!!!
ReplyDeleteOrsato totally lost himself. Big mistake that maybe decided the match and then lot of mistakes followed. Now YC to wrong player, assistants needed to correct him. He brought himself in that position and he will suffer now.
ReplyDeleteThe card was for Dissent if not VAR Dissent if not VAR would have corrected it!! But mostly agree
DeleteI can’t believe that Orsato missed YC for Portugal player in 27’!!! INCREDIBILEEEE!
ReplyDeleteCorner kick for Serbia missed!
ReplyDeleteNow missed corner kick for Serbia. Also several fouls missed. And now missed corner for Portugal. So many mistakes from Orsato. I never saw a match with so many mistakes from a crew.
ReplyDeleteMistake hounter? Please, control your emotions.
DeleteI guess he is Serbian ( because of the nickname). Nole, please try to be more objective.
DeleteI'm Serbian too, but this is referee blog. We need to control our emotions and try to be objective.
DeleteExcellent no handball of Serbia defenber spotted by Orsato
ReplyDeleteAnd excellent no penalty call in the other box for a similar handball as well.
DeletePoor management by Daniele Orsato.
ReplyDeleteGuys this is a referee blog, not a fan base of serbian football team. A corner, a foul, a throw in... come on be serious please.
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteNo freedom of speech??? European values??? You defend Orsato if you have arguments. He is very poor in this 60’. At last one YC correct now.
Delete+1
DeleteOrsato not in a good mood. Now, YC very harsh to Serbia and few minutes before another corner missed. Unsecured performance by italian crew.
DeleteYou are confusing the freedom of speech with your (and mine) status being a guest on this blog, (objectively) dedicated to refereeing, not emotional outbursts fro. a supporter of one team. You are free to express your frustrations elswhere, none of your "freedoms" is being violated if adminisrators would enforce legitimate rules of this blog, even less so if other readers find your comments displaced.
DeleteSale, +1 - I'm honestly quite annoyed that certain users misuse this blog for their emotional, unbelanced and illegitimate bashing of any kind of decision against their team.
DeleteVery sad to see the comments about Orsato here tonight…
ReplyDeleteOrsato is great referee, but he is not showing us that tonight. Poor first half by Italian.
ReplyDeleteNo, match should be repeated.
ReplyDeleteThis is a classic example of how one, in my opinion, wrong decision changes the nature of the match. We can't blame VAR (Chefren is absolutely right), Orsato was close and made the wrong decision. This is not an ordinary match, and in the preparation of refereeing tactics, such an experienced referee must know and feel it. An example to younger referees of how one bad decision brings many more small mistakes and poor performance, in extenso.
ReplyDelete71’ : missed YC for Mitrovic (elbow challenge) and just alter wrong offside by AR1.
ReplyDeleteAnd another…phantom corner for Serbia. Sorry but italian refs are lost on the pitch…
Delete+1
DeleteOrsato extremely passionate to let everyone know his cards match his shirt tonight
ReplyDeleteFoul given to Serbia when Cancelo got the ball. He had been poor tonight orsato
ReplyDeleteI was expecting from serbia fan base to write goalllll :p
ReplyDeleteGoaaaalllll 😁 Just kiding, we are only commenting referee decisions. But poor appearance by Orsato, to many mistakes.
DeleteNow we see how important was that not given goal by Makkelie in their 1st match.
ReplyDelete??
DeleteSerbia got 3 points more than Portugal in group table (which is more than the 2 points they “lost” in Serbia - March 2021).
No, it would have been 19 and 19 and Portugal woiod have better goal difference. ;)
DeleteAnd how important it was that the Portuguese weren’t able to win their previous match against Rep. of Ireland(!) and weren’t able to decide tonight’s game in the phase they had opportunities to score more goals ����♂️
DeleteAre our Serbian friends now happy? Why not to mention game in Belgrade with missed goal by referee?
ReplyDeleteMario Diks got dropped for that.
DeleteSerbia got 3 points more than Portugal in group table (which is more than the 2 points they “lost” in Serbia - March 2021).
DeleteMaybe they just should have won against Ierland or this night.
Btw, scandalous penalty in Ghana - RSA (deciding clash) by N'Diaye.
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/RamiSensei/status/1459973992253689856
Bad camera angle. Looks like a clear shirt pull. Referee was sure and they accepted it.
DeleteThe pulled player falls backwards, not forwards. The player's fall is not believable.
DeleteIf Portugal don’t win their play off it’s only fair that Makkelie doesn’t go to Qatar either. He took away Portugal’s place he should have his taken away too...
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, Portugal would still be out… Serbia has 3 points more now in standings.
DeleteJust count +2 for the ‘missed’ win of Portugal.
How can you blame Makkelie, it was the mistake of assisant Diks. And also 4 matches ago. Portugal can blame theirselves for playing poor.
DeleteYeah because the referee must see if the ball is in from 35-40 meters away...
DeleteBut Serbia would be on -1 as well for the ‘missed’ win of Portugal, making both teams even in points. Portugal with a favorable goal difference compared to Serbia would have qualified.
DeleteBut having said that, tonight, despite heavy competition, the award of ‘most laughable comment of the evening’ should go to Oliver! Makkelie is one of the best European referees at the moment and should not miss out on Qatar because of a mistake he’s not to be blamed for. Actually FIFA/UEFA more or less took the blame by introducing VAR after what happened in Portugal.
To be fair, it was all in their own hands.
DeleteBut Portugal couldnt win against Ireland and tonight they’ve lost at home against Serbia.
@Known
DeletePointing at a referee is such a ‘typical’ reaction of the team that has lost. Those people should just learn how to count.
Makkelie’s assistant made mistake, but Orsato gave them back! They scored goal tonight from clear foul (there are 2 angles that show that). Portugal can only blame themselves because they scored in 2 min and didn’t manage draw at least, but Serbia overperformed them in La Luz and deserved to go to Qatar. Also, that annuled goal for Ireland in 94’ few days ago hmmm (Ireland manager said that it was clear and obvious goal).
DeletePortugal out it's their fault. Goal not seen not Makkelie fault but UEFA and FIFA.
ReplyDeleteIt was all in their own hands tonight. 2 ropped points in Belgrade - Yes - but in the end Serbia has +3 points than Portugal.
DeleteSo we can conclude after todays matches, Makkelie was by far the best. Looking forward to the upcoming important matches.
ReplyDeleteThe comments by Serbians are biased, I think Orsato was god as well, not only Makkelie.
DeleteSerbians think this is a fan Blog. But no trolling here. Here, only referees are spoken objectively.
DeleteAnonymous: Orsato, Makkelie and the Holy Spirit? ;) #god
DeleteOrsato did well in not an easy game. He is praised in my country. I don't understand the (Serbian) emotional comments in this topic. Maybe he awarded a wrong corner and missed a corner, but nothing crucial and that's the most important.
DeleteI also agreed with play-on regarding 1-0 Portugal.
I think Brych did very well tonight, in a very challenging and important game.
ReplyDeleteAgree.
DeleteSounds like DR Congo used four sub moments in the second half and Benin is protesting.
ReplyDeleteSomething similar happened in the DFB Cup earlier this fall. Is the fourth official and the crew supposed to stop an illegal sub or is it up to the team not to violate the rules of the competition?
In DFB Cup, there was a sixth substitution in extra time, which was not allowed in this tournament (unlike CL, I think).
DeleteDFB decided against the team, awarding the win to the opponents. So they made clear, it is the liability of the team.
However they also said, that it is the duty of the referee's team to check those things. And as a result the involved officials weren't appointed for some time (without any conviction though) by the committee.
So in short: It's a fault by the referee's team, but still the responsibility of the team.
Other associations might decide differently, of course.
https://streamable.com/68q2ok
ReplyDeleteThe mentioned penalty incident in Malta - Slovakia.
It looks like a clear penalty but in my opinion the 100% evidence that player didn't touch slightly ball before, is missing.
Otherwise expected intervention and very clear call.
I don't whether there were other replays later in the game.
In case the challenge is directly on opponent, in my opinion 100% clear case of serious missed incident.
I would say that the defender touched the ball, but it is hard to say for sure, based on the angles we have. Unfortunately Jović didnt show with the gesture if he saw that, so we could only guess. He looked concentrated and close to the situation.
Deletehttps://twitter.com/i/status/1460006840981463041
ReplyDeleteThats corruption in my eyes.
From referee's excellent position it had to be a blatant holding. When such things occur perfectly in front of you, you perceive them much 'bigger'. And also I think it's more a penalty than not. The defender's action (holding) is very stupid and he gains an advantage because of that (a teammate is able to get the ball). Far from 'corruption'.
Deletehttps://twitter.com/waveleron/status/1460059113052946438
Hello ESR :) What is your oppinion on the OFR Armenia vs. Germany? (links above)
DeleteMaybe also step/kick on the foot by the defender on the right?
Delete@David
DeleteVery difficult scene in which if you are sure the attacker played the ball you have to give a penalty. And it's up to you to decide if the replays are conclusive...
I wouldn't like to be in VAR position there. He doesn't intervene - he is blamed for missed CLEAR foul by those who are sure the attacker played the ball. He intervenes - he is blamed for intervention because not everyone is interested in going deep into the incident and by those who simply think the replays are not conclusive.
I am sure he was aware of how clear penalty it is in case of attacker playing the ball and not defender. And I see it like that - the attacker was successful in playing the ball and defender being late by a fraction of second kicked him => penalty. But I'm only 90% sure :P
https://www.bbc.com/sport/africa/59290195
Delete@ESR: you can watch much better replays that I posted above. I think they are a lot more conclusive.
DeleteAnyone seen Donatas Rumsas yesterday?
ReplyDeleteSome impressions from yesterday:
ReplyDeletehttps://law5-theref.blogspot.com/2021/11/202122-fifa-wc-european-qualifiers_13.html?showComment=1636976086991#c6404676695803680660