Second game at the tournament for Dutch referee Danny Makkelie, in charge of Croatia - Italy.
Game 28, Group B
Leipzig, 24 June 2024 21:00 CET
CROATIA - ITALY Leipzig, 24 June 2024 21:00 CET
Referee: Danny Makkelie NED
Assistant Referee 1: Hessel Steegstra NED
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries NED
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries NED
Fourth Official: Serdar Gözübüyük NED
Reserve Assistant Referee: Johan Balder NED
Video Assistant Referee: Rob Dieperink NED
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1: Pol van Boekel NED
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 2: Bastian Dankert GER
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 2: Bastian Dankert GER
UEFA Referee Observer: Kyros Vassaras GRE
UEFA Delegate: Paul Lyon GIB
hope best for Makkelie, one of my favorite referee. And also hope for better path to final for him.
ReplyDeleteThere's very little chance for Makkelie in the final. Kuipers did the last final and two Dutchman in a row is unlikely. Only chance for Makkelie is when other top-elite referees all make huge mistakes. So far Turpin en Orsato are trying to help Makkelie, but Marciniak, Taylor en maybe even Vincic are also there and Orsato can make a few mistakes before he will be taken off the final.
Deletethat's true!
DeleteTurpin, Orsato and Marciniak won't referee the final (if performance would be important), so there's a chance for Makkelie, Taylor, Vincic.
DeleteGood luck to Danny Makkelie!
Makkelie is for sure one of the best refs today. But still can’t get rid of some unusual gesture! He often moves his right arm meaning “play on” not “advantage”
ReplyDeleteI do that, but only a low arm, so it’s a different signal from advantage
DeleteFirst YC supportable. I personally would have liked a warning there considering the game is very calm so far but not really wrong to caution either
ReplyDeleteTurning point of the game about disciplinary control: this was the choice by Makkelie.Indeed you are right when you say most of referees would have managed it without booking. I think the Dutch referee felt that game could have escalated.
DeleteDisagree, deliberate trip in a SPA scenario + beneficial time of the match -> optimal (opening) yellow card decision.
DeleteA good performance by Makkelie in an easy match so far, IMO. I like his line in foul detection so far, with many play on calls and advantages on small "fouls", which enables him to stay in the background and leave the spotlight to the players. A very good YC to CRO25 in 24', it was a deliberate trip from behind in a situation quite resembling SPA and, like Mikael and Chefren above, I also think this was an optimal time for a first card, in order to prevent any possible risk of escalation. To add, good verbal warnings to ITA23 (DtR, preventing execution of a FK) and CRO11 (protesting), I think these choices were optimal in terms of a stepped disciplinary approach and "saving ammunition" for more serious/blatant issues in the rest of the match. All in all, a positive performance so far.
ReplyDeleteWill be an OFR for this handball, arm open out of body.
ReplyDeleteIncredibly clear penalty, you should have seen it yourself
ReplyDeleteThat s a clear penalty to Croatia
ReplyDeleteClear penalty should have been given onfield
ReplyDeleteOxford Dictionary will be printing a picture of this next to "clear and obvious"...
ReplyDeleteOxford's in England and the English would probably use the close proximity idea to say no penalty ;-) (I agree, clear penalty elsewhere)
Delete@Chefren: His performance should not been worse than Orsato's or Tello's (all 3 should have given a penalty), but here VAR reacted and Makkelie needed OFR.
ReplyDeleteSo my question: Is Makkelie's performance worse than Orsato and Tello (because he needed OFR) or better (because of correct outcome: PK)?
You always have to wait for the final whistle for a judgement on the whole performance. Here anyway you have a correct outcome after OFR and no discussions, unlike the other games you mentioned, that's sure.
DeleteOrsato and Tello should've had two each, Makkelie has only needed one (at least so far)
DeleteWow, it's really strange that a class ref like Makkelie didn't see handball like this.
ReplyDeleteNow, the match will be exciting!
He look down
Delete62‘: 2 Croatian players go to Makkelie to protest. Unfortunately, I don‘t see much of the „only captains speak“ guidelines anymore… Nothing against Makkelie of course, I think tolerating dissent has gotten more with each match in the last days
ReplyDeleteEvery next match has a bigger number of dissent (not only captains), so I can suppose that guidelines are moved to reality...
DeleteAs always
DeleteIt's always funny seeing people who are watching a match on the television lamenting at "how did he not see such a clear handball". He's turned away from it and not had a clear view.
ReplyDeleteAnyone who has ever refereed a game will have had "clear" incidents on video they've missed in real time
It's his fault that he is turned away and didn't have a clear view. Anyone who has been a referee knows that if you are close and choose the correct position you will easily see those handballs. Much easier than from a tv camera that's 70 meters away.
DeleteHe's not clairvoyant. He can anticipate but he can't tell the future.
DeleteNobody can but the whole point is to base your position on where you expect an offence or situation to happen.
Delete'73 not a good job by the broadcaster. YC for dissent I think? Anyone know?
ReplyDeleteYes, according to polish one
DeleteYC Ivanusec due to delaying the restart/kicking the ball away
Delete76' why offside called with such delay? it wasnt a clear play on. AR2 lowered the flag already and raised it after the whistle
ReplyDeleteReferee was waiting for advantage. When it was clear there was none, he came back to offside.
DeleteI think Makkelie waits for understanding whether he has indeed to stop the game, according to the flow of the game, it is not the first time we see this from Dutch crew.
DeleteAnd... it was AR1, bench on the other side than cameras in Leipzig.
i think that is understandable to me but still wouldnt it be more clear when the play would be restarted immediately? Maybe its just my thing but it looked a bit strange
DeleteThe disciplinary control so far has been close to faultless, if you ask me.
ReplyDeleteAlso his foul detection. Strict approach but very consistent.
DeleteLittle doubt by Makkelie between yellow and red for this tackle by Stanicic so he takes his time. Topical style for him
ReplyDeleteExcellent remark. By looking at his face indeed I had same feeling. He was thinking about the color of the card, this is Makkelie style, he elaborates every decision in the short time after a whistle and before showing the card, also before possible penalties, the best mental efforts to ensure that at the end he has assessed in the best possible way.
DeleteSuperb advantage
ReplyDeleteGreat advantage for 1:1!
ReplyDeleteExcellent, masterclass advantage given.
ReplyDeleteAbsolute masterclass advantage
ReplyDeleteFantastic advantage, great job there
ReplyDelete8 minutes of added time is another very good decision. You can see a difference with Orsato who doesn't like this topic (not to put in bad light the Italian, but he should definitely give more attention to that, like other referees do).
ReplyDeleteAt the end to me this is a classic performance that can go even to 8.6 but it has the crucial mistake inside. Very often it's hard to say how much a crucial mistake can influence a referee's display, and so the UEFA scale is made also based on that.
In this game we can easily isolate the missed handball as 7.9, saying that the rest was absolutely good in a challenging context.
7.9 (8.5 - 8.6). Had he whistled the handball live, he couldn't have done any single thing better in this game.
Quite simply a top referee. Second half was not easy to manage - Makkelie did brilliantly. What a finish !
DeleteAbsolute masterclass by Makkelie! Shame about the OFR, otherwise I think the strongest performance so far this tournament
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ReplyDeleteAside from the missed penalty (obviously important), this was one of the best performances so far.
ReplyDeleteOn top of the game, superb discipline and fantastic advantage late on
Awful time management from Makkelie. That dramatic final whistle was not really necessary either
ReplyDeleteRest of performance was good I must say, despite OFR
DeleteVery good performance by Makkelie. Remain unclear about not whistled penalty live, altough he have excellent position, excellent angle etc. At the end,without that, everything was perfect!
ReplyDeleteIMO the best refereed match by a referee-team so far. Others where very good too, but not in a match this challenging. And the fact that Makkelie kept full control in a match this tense, makes this IMO the best performance so far. Makkelie's management was perfect.
ReplyDeleteThe team (including VAR) was faultless this match in foul detection en disciplinary control. But of course Makkelie himself missed the penalty. That's for sure a minor point in this performance.
I can not agree with "faultless foul detection". Just before the 1-1 goal ITA23 Bastoni gets a free kick at the right wing back position. This looked like a free kick for absolutely nothing? I could not see CRO16 Budimir making any significant contact whatsoever when he won the ball from Bastoni. This would have been a massive goal scoring oppurtunity for Croatia and Busimir. Instead this seemingly extremely wrongful free kick starts the attack ending with the Italian goal. This could very well go do down as the worst - and most decisive - referee mistake in the entire Euro24.
DeleteDanny M. Has a great looking advantage, the way he pivots. Hand upright almost, it is very arrogant looking, but also visually exhibits control and calmness. I do like it. Six or seven excellent advnatages
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely great advantage and also a very good image for refereeing!
ReplyDeleteAs much as I don't like Makkelie, I admit that it was a concert performed by a Dutch referee. Despite the error during the penalty kick for Croatia. For me, he became the favorite for the final.
ReplyDeleteFirst 8 minutes of added time without a single longer break or injury, and then the goal is scored at +7:21, and Makkelie didnt allow any play after that. Typical situation when the underdog is losing and scores, and unnecessary in otherwise mostly a good performance in a hectic 2nd half.
ReplyDeleteI think he didn't like the actions/comments from the Croatian bench and didn't feel to reward them with an extra minute.
DeleteIt’s not about “rewarding” a team. 8 minutes was excessive anyway but he has to play the time he’s added. There were 30-40 seconds left
DeleteIf you're reasoning like punishing a team by not being fair and lawful cause you don't like there behaviour you should honestly never referee a game.
DeleteTime isn't added for goals in 'normal time' in Uefa, which is why we don't often see large amounts of added time that are seen in England/Fifa. Uefa ignored (and were quite rude about) the Ifab/Fifa instruction to do this. Therefore I don't see why the extra 40s should be added in this match, I'm more than happy with the timing of the final whistle. I'd feel differently in non-Uefa matches
Delete40 seconds is plenty,even more should have been added cause Italians celebrated 2-3 minutes.
DeleteAnything can happen.
But ok,I guess 40 seconds or more justified added minutes doesn't mean anything.
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DeleteInteresting if UEFA thinks they can decide which rules they want to follow as the LOTG clearly states that time should be added for goal celebrations. However, to have a little feeling for the game as a referee might come in handy in a situation like this. It's not reasonable that a team can win a match by scoring late and then celebrate away the rest of the time.
DeleteYeah, good performance and so on but it's really annoying to me that he blows the final whistle directly after kick off. Minimum of 40 seconds left when Italy scores. He even takes his time to caution the Italian bench for celebrating for to long. Makes me wonder if he's there for making sure we get a fair game or if he's there for himself.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion this is a performance that, with its strength, "eliminates" a crucial mistake from the assessment. I always try to put myself in the commission's shoes, to understand how they judge things, I believe that in this case they may have a similar idea. Too strong image of refereeing in the second half, but they certainly would have appreciated a lot if he had also whistled the handball.
ReplyDeleteI think we can expect Makkelie in a KO game, very deserved.
I think even beyond that - Makkelie shows very strong skills at keeping a match under control. The referee committee will surely see him as a safe bet going forward for difficult matches. It would not make sense for a competition to get rid a such a referee for a mistake corrected by VAR anyway. In the age of VAR, management and control are more important than ever.
DeleteIMO Makkelie is a realistic option for officiating the final, if he deliveres again in one of the next 2 rounds.
DeleteHow is it possible nowadays that all on the benches can run into the field and celebrate goals like in floorball!
ReplyDeleteMakkelie not the same criterium,same thing that Croats and Italians did were not whistling the same,especially after Croatia scored.
ReplyDelete8 minutes added no commentI dont know where he found that much time.
Italians then celebrating couple of minutes and right at the 8 minute mark he whistles the end.
Maybe I'm not objective here,but that's the feeling right now.
Indeed you're not objective. Remember also the time-wasting by Croatia before 1:1. They are out thanks to themselves, not because of the referee.
DeleteAccording to the extra time management established at Euros, 4-5 minutes would have been sufficient. No clue why Makkelie uses WC time managment.
Delete@ref ok,but the same thing Italians did in the 1st half with timewasting.
DeleteThey were taking corners too long,every corner around 1 minute,kicking the ball away (just warning for ITA,same thing happened in 2nd half and CRO got YC) and just 1 minute was added in 1st half.
I'm big fan of Makkelie ,but after CRO scored he was too easy on the whistle.
No he was not. The game got harder. So he has to be more on the whistle. Perfect done
DeleteOutstanding officiating. A Master class of refeering. Congratulations
ReplyDeleteTypically arrogant from 'Danny' tonight, making a show of every caution and generally enjoying the spotlight
ReplyDeleteBut how on earth did ITA23 Bastoni get a free kick at the right wing back position just before 1-1? This looked like a free kick for absolutely nothing? I could not see CRO16 Budimir making any significant contact whatsoever when he won the ball from Bastoni. This would have been a massive goal scoring oppurtunity for Croatia. Instead this seemingly extremely wrongful free kick starts the attack ending with the goal. This could very well go do down as the worst - and most decisive - referee mistake in the entire Euro24.
ReplyDeleteIsn't that a pretty clear shove with the arm? Very little force, sure, but looks like a standard foul.
DeleteI certainly did not see any arm movement fram Budimir in the direction of Bastoni. It seemed like Bastoni either stumbled on his own feet, or fell over deliberately.
DeleteITA23 was in the air trying to head the ball and was then pushed with an arm. When in the air you very easily lose balance and that’s exactly what happened. Apart from that hardly any reaction by CRO16. IMHO a simple and correct decision.
DeleteI agree with this fully. Thank you for a detailed and objective analysis; there is nothing to add on this.
ReplyDeleteI hope Tello gets the Swi-Ita round of 16 match
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, SUI-ITA will be Soares Dias or Oliver. Tello could be in the Germany match.
DeleteOliver won’t get Italy, almost impossible surely.
DeleteAnd he won‘t get Swizerland as they lost „due to“ a RC by Oliver against Spain in the quartefinal 2021 (2020).
DeleteI think Oliver should be avoided since he took a controversial (not wrong!) decision against Switzerland in de quarterfinal against Spain in 2021 when he sent off Freuler for SFP. Switzerland also had Rappalini in their roubd of 16 game against France back then, but that is not a problem. Would Turpin be possible for this match?
ReplyDeleteYes, three days rest should be enough.
DeleteBut Marciniak seems also quite logical IMO.
Completely agree - Marciniak on SWI v ITA seems completely logical
DeleteSo, another thing we can conclude is that a referee can be perfect, if a game ends dramatically it will most often be his fault. Sad to read some comments on social media.
ReplyDeleteSunny Makkelie under fire for the 8 mins additional time. Honestly the 8 mins were much. I am thinking it wouldn't be that much if it were the other way round. And then ending the match immediately after kickoff despite Italy celebrating for more than 1 minute is also not a good look.
ReplyDeleteAgain another instance of yhe bigger yeam being given the benefit of doubt advantage!
I think that the problem with added time is that the heads of referees never asked for consistency, FORCING all their referees to apply the same criteria. It's still something subjective, but I think this can be at lest managed with some guidelines. This is not done. We have the same issue in serie A, with referees like Maresca being very strict and counting everything, while others just not caring and giving a random amount of minutes. At UEFA level indeed you have Orsato that doesn't care at all about added time andf he immediately ends the game without assigning the expected time, and referees like Marciniak and Makkelie on the other side, that are very strict, counting all the wasted time during the game. Of course the second option should be the solution, but as long as this is not made by all referees, fans will always complain. There are many factors that must be considered, first of all, the time wasting before the resume of the game after every set piece, then the fake injuries, substitutions, VAR cheks, OFR, objects thrown from the stands.
ReplyDeleteTo me, 8 minutes was not an exaggerated decision, but I can easy say that most of referee would have given less. That's a problem of the other referees, of course. Croatian side discussing this decision only because Italy scored, otherwise no attention on the topic and that's something I don't like. They criticize because tey got something against, but what if they had scored 2-0, and not Italy 1-1?
I think I can be absolutely neutral and fair in my opinion, I would have said the same even in case of contrary scenario, but I can only suggest to UEFA committee to work more on this topic.
At the end what Collina did with World Cup, to me, is an absolutely fair and expected management for all games about added time.
Chefren, you wrote: "I think that the problem with added time is that the heads of referees never asked for consistency, FORCING all their referees to apply the same criteria. It's still something subjective, but I think this can be at lest managed with some guidelines. This is not done."
DeleteHow can you be so sure about that? What if ref com DID instruct the referees about the additional time and this one referee was not following the instructions?
As always trying to do everything to defend a particular referee.
You can see so many different styles with the management of added time, that it's simply impossible to think committee instructed them. With committee working closer with them in a big tournament, I wouldn't find any logical reason to miss the guidelines.. that's what I see!
DeleteSorry, but I dont agree with most of the observations from this post. The fact that Croatian players, coach and media are complaining about the added time because of the goal conceded is clear, but that doesnt mean that the complains are not valid.
DeleteIn the 1st half there were 8 corners!, some of which were slowly taken and one or two the Croatian players came towards the stands to tell fans to stop throwing items. How much time did Makkelie add? 1 min. How many times did he warn Italian players to be faster? From what I saw, zero. And you have the situation that Italy is with 4 points (0-0) for sure through to KO phase.
In the 2nd half, after the Croatian goal suddenly the situation changed completely, because now Croatia goes through and Italy loses the 2nd position. Its perfectly fine and legitimate that the teams now have different approaches, but that has nothing to do with the referee. IMO is by no means the job of the referee to directly try to impact the pace of the game beyond time wasting, since he has the power to compensate for the time lost. Very early in the 2nd half after the goal he adapted a very strict approach against "time wasting", which was really mild compared to what we see from time to time in Champions league and some national leagues. So, Makkelie did a lot of prevention, there were no injuries except one minor break in 87th minute, some changes were done at the closest sideline to save time etc. With that in mind, and now along with other games played at the tournament, one simply does not expect more than 5-6 min of added time.
And then again, I would understand if the guidelines are like that, but keep in mind that it is in a broader context the opportunity for the losing team to score, no doubt about that. And in that context, the same principle should be applied for the additional time, if there is a change and if there is a celebration and the goal is scored in 7:20, the time should be added. And here Makkelie again changed his approach and decided to whistle the end.
Talking about the foul detection and disciplinary control, here we had a clear example of strict approach with YC. Again, the idea of controlling and managing the game is fine and can be seen great from refereeing perspective, but the referees should also consider if it favors a specific team on the pitch when they "change" the approach. It is not typical to give 8 YC in a game that had almost no conflicts whatsoever, at EURO!
All in all, I think Makkelie did a solid job, but apart from the crucial mistake with the PK and OFR, for me time management was simply bad and inappropriate, and overall the attempt to control the game had as a consequence that he was too present in the game, especially by the end. And then of course people talk about a very challenging game, and in reality it was a normal game without too many incidents or unsportmanslike conduct from both sides.
To me, Makkelie did an excellent performance yesterday; faultless disciplinary management, always very focused on the crashes between players showing prompt interventions to cool down the atmosphere, keeping the match under control. The usage of the YCs was also very very good to me. The only not positive point is the penalty, so evident to be blown live without OFR support. But very good job
ReplyDeleteI guess that now committee have to start thinking about the whole KO stage. I would identify three or four potential candidates for semifinals and final (Orsato ?, Turpin ? Marciniak ? Makkelie?) testing them in the G16 with additional 4 teammate (Gil Manzano ?, Nyberg ?, Tello ?, Soares Dias ?, Letexier ? Taylor ?). And four good performers straight to QF (Vincic, Kovacs, Zwayer, Oliver)
ReplyDeleteThe appointment for Switzerland - Italy will be very interesting.
ReplyDeleteZwayer and Siebert should be out for different reasons, one has already officiated Italy and the other has a game that is maybe too close to the first Round of 16.
Kovacs with a game tomorrow: SUI - ITA would be too close, only three days after. But still, in case of need and good performance...
To follow, we know that Taylor can't handle Italy, otherwise big option.
Oliver can be discussed as well, but it is possible that committee will think again to Real Madrid - Juventus, and you know what? Buffon today is in the national team staff.... for me Rosetti will say "better to avoid", but I wouldn't have troubles with this choice, let's clarify.
Turpin is unlikely after the first game, to me still to be checked whether he could attend KO stage.
Vincic already officiated Italy, he could be again in the middle with same team, but I don't think so.
For Tello, it's in my opinion very doubtful after the crucial incidents, and more generally, he has been used in a certain way so far, if appointed for a Round of 16, I can't imagine SUI - ITA for him.
Schaerer out for Switzerland. Gil Manzano impossible with Italy.
I don't see Kruzliak for this game.
So we have:
Nyberg = very big surprise in case, excellent and deserved assignment, if made by committee, but I have doubts, he could get something less sonorous on paper.
Letexier = We must wait for his second game and the performance, but at moment big candidate on paper, indeed.
Marciniak = As I explained, I would find strange to see then him directly in such a game, but still... to be considered. Italian press would immediately start to talk about what happened in CL semifinal (BTW they are still talking about Taylor, including the disallowed goal in his game).
Meler = rather not expected for a game like SUI - ITA, but on paper possible as (relatively) surprise.
All in all, the more realistic name, but still "sub iudice" is for me Letexier in case of good / expected performance today. He would then have 3 full days before Saturday.
To follow, surely one must mention Marciniak, but I explained my arguments here...
"Suprising" and very welcomed assignments for me would be either Nyberg or Meler. The Turkish more likely because he had his second game before the Swedish.
I forgot Soares Dias, possible for SUI - ITA, but in my opinion just an average referee, I don't see him with particular merits to get that game, to be honest...
DeleteIMO there is simply 0 logic on not appointing Taylor to Italian national team.
DeleteI cannot see Meler in a match like ITA - SWI based on the appointments of the Turkish so far this season. Yes he showed two good, expected performances but I am struggling to find a spot in the KO stage; but lets wait for the last group stage matches.
DeleteITA - SUI would indeed be a perfect match for Letexier. Also quite a same style needed as for his 2 GS matches.
DeleteBut I am not sure about Kovacs not being possible. In the last EURO a match on the third day after the last one happened twice, both times in a crucial context.
Del Cerro Grande (FRA-GER to CRO-CZE)
Brych (ENG-UKR to ESP-ITA, quarter- and semi-final!)
Personally, I would find it really strange that Marciniak is only appointed to 1 GS game and then nothing else. 2 officials were always going to have just 1 GS game I know it's FIFA but it's been done before at a tournament (Webb in 2014) where he had 1 GS match and then a KO game from recollection.
DeleteFor a referee with vast experience and finals now under his belt, it seems crazy to manage him in this way if there is at least no further appointments (also now that Poland are out).
I'm also really curious to see how Manzano is treated (because I personally don't think he was the worst performing official during the group stages). So, will he be planned for a KO match too potentially?
DeleteGil Manzano has been officiating games involving Italian teams in the Europa league and conference league sincebthat Ukraine vs Italy game, so why can't he handle now handle the national team?
DeleteThen for Taylor and Oliver it makes no sense to keep referring to previous incidents as well. I'm afraid if that continues it will get to a point whereby there will almost be no referees for particular teams due to previous incidents
Highlights:
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For me that is very hard to believe.
ReplyDeleteHard to think they sent Marciniak home after not at all a bad performance and knowing he is from a nation that is already out of the tournement.
ReplyDeleteOrsato also hard to believe but I am not sure that comitee trusts him any more. He quite clearly ignored the new instructions and had a bad performance with bad publicity in home nation. Probably also with Italy progressing not easy to appoint him anymore, not to speak about the final.
Can we get all the video clips of the games please?
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