Sunday, 1 July 2018

2018 FIFA World Cup Match 52: Croatia - Denmark (discussion)

Let's discuss here the performance of Néstor Pitana in Croatia - Denmark. Good luck to the officiating team!
Match #52
Nizhny Novgorod, 1 July 2018 20:00 CET
Croatia - Denmark
Referee: Néstor Pitana (ARG)
Assistant Referee 1: Hernan Maidana (ARG)
Assistant Referee 2: Juan Pablo Belatti (ARG)
Fourth Official: Enrique Cáceres (PAR)
Fifth Official: Eduardo Cardozo (PAR)
VAR: Mauro Vigliano (ARG)
AVAR1: Gery Vargas (BOL)
AVAR 2: Roberto Díaz Pérez Del Palomar (ESP)
AVAR 3: Daniele Orsato (ITA)

155 comments:

  1. Lots of "Coca Cola" shouts by Pitana :D :D

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    1. Russia or Coca-Cola :D :D

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    2. I don't get what you mean 🤔 Of course it was Coca Cola 🤔🤔

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    1. Referee kit in red, one team with red shorts, the other team with red socks and both with red numbers. You don't see that very often...
      The blue kit would have been an alternative for Pitana.
      And black socks for Croatia.
      But it seems to be OK in the first minutes.

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    2. When eyes adapt, it's ok.
      But eyes have ability to adapt even in the dark, that's not the point :)
      Blue one is the best solution IMO

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    3. Yellow would have been the best solution here by all means!

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    4. Yellow and green, so blue would be perfect but I can live with the red one as well. Maybe FIFA considered Croatia's kit (dark) blue so they chose red.

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    5. Blue is the best choice there, red is unlucky...

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    6. Hello guys so its not the ref who decides which kit to wear, its someone higher up? Red is not ideal here, yellow or baby blue would be better.

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    7. It's not the referee... It's chosen by FIFA!

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    1. Yes. Good no call. Mutual holding.

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    2. Just like the Spain v Russia situation! Mutual holding so play on... Perfect call!

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  4. AR1 signaling for a foul bt Pitana says play on

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    1. Signaled offside and Pitana gave advantage as the ball was possessed by the danes.

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    2. Ball went back to keeper so he felt no need to call it. Probably gave the AR the old 'thanks and thumbs up' and play on.

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    3. No he signaled for a foul not offside. Clearly waved with the left arm. And the situation was no big deal. Expected to give advantage.

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  5. I am at home,enjoying the best refereeing of our generation.Grt thanks to Mr.BUSCA and Collina.

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    1. Busacca, whatever Peter...

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    2. Peter is always looking for errors in spelling and grammar 😑😑

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    3. English teacher or someone speaking English fluently. Don't have other explanation

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  6. Nestor Pitana is a thirsty referee :D

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  7. He posesses all qualities of a good referee

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  8. AR2 has flag in his right hand consistently. Was always told to keep it in left hand when your facing field. I guess when you get to FIFA those things go out the door

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    1. I saw minimum 10 ARs doing the same thing during the WC.
      Mostly non-UEFA referees, exept Rocchi's ARs.

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  9. Very boring match...
    Pitana can't express himself.

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  10. Two very boring matches today. The matches yesterday were great.

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    1. Imagine next WC with 48 teams...
      We all know how increasing the number of the national teams resulted on the Euro 2016

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    2. Yeah it would be like torture

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    3. This match is boring but i disagree with most people here that it is generally bad football on this championship. Per example group stage was second most efficient in history. Plus we already had a match that will go in football history as one of all time greats in WC

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    4. @FilipVicković
      I agree, plus a lot of beautiful goals.

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    5. Fully agreed, just the bad matches were pure sh*te, I really enjoyed this WC so far.

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    6. If you think this is Boeing, just wait until SWE-Switzerland

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    7. Will Skomina fall asleep? 😪

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  11. 75min. Wrong DFK called next to the bench. DEN player was really upset.

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    1. Don’t think it was wrong. The Denmark player held the opponents arm

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  12. Damn I will sleep soon,,no football no action yet,, after France Argentina real torture to watch this teams

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  13. What do you think guys what is the best matches till now? 1 France Argentina 2 Nigeria Argentina 3 ...

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    1. France vs Argentina was great but also Iran vs Portugal

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    2. Uruguay-Egypt, wonderful memories... God, if you can give me 90 minutes of my life back.

      France-Argentina and Spain-Portugal are my favorites

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    3. Iran Portugal, Japan Senegal, Germany Mexico and Germany Sweden are contenders for third place so far. But also some other good games were one team won with big margin like Argentina Croatia, Poland Colombia

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    4. For me: 1. POR-ESP 2. FRA-ARG 3. BEL-TUN

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    5. France-Argentina
      Sweden-Germany
      Spain-Portugal

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    6. Himm most of them Mediterranean countries and South America teams,hot blood players

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  14. Glad to see a lots of new names
    commenting on blog. Cheers...

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  15. Yes it's nice to read comments here,,but I can't watch games because my one eye is here another one trying to watch game:))

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    1. If u want to be a good referee u must be able to to see everything. (1 eye on action 1 on AR) :-)

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    2. I am good referee already,this is my Nick name,I am collina,just reading here you guys what you writing about me:p

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    3. Info : Mr. Collina is very loved and popular in Turkey :D :D

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    4. Yes Soham exactly,I watched lot of games because of him,he is walking charisma :)

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    5. Yes and Turkish club and the Turkish national teams have an excellent record with Collina in-charge! 😎

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    6. Wow you are walking almanac also:) you have great memory,, congratulations friend

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    7. I read this info in Collina's Wiki page :D In 2002 WC there was Japan v Turkey which Turkey won, I was 4 years old back then!

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  16. Wow , what a advantage for DEN !?!
    Nice one Pitana!

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  17. Technically YC is correct here since it's a genuine attempt to play the ball. Personally I'd like to see red here for 'denying a 100% goal', but the rules are the rules

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    1. If this happened in my game at my level, I will give Red.

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    2. Timo, that would be incorrect. Attempt to play ball must be punished with YC, not RC. It is open to interpretation, but this was a very clear case.

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    3. It's a YC based on the new (last year?) LOTG. Denying goal-scoring opportunity with attempt to play the ball in penalty area results in PK and YC. To avoid tripple punishment (PK, playing down a man, and losing player for next game)

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    4. In my opinion I would have preferred a red card here because the defender had no chance to legally win the ball.

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  18. Correct penalty and also correct YC in 115‘!

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  19. Correct PK, but missed RC for DOGSO

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  20. Shouldn't that have been a red card for that PK? It's hard to say it was an attempt to play a ball - attack directly from behind.

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  21. Excellent PK,great decision. Mr.soham why wasn't a red card

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    1. That's a nailed on DOGSO... I'm confused why that is not a RC!

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    2. Because he tried to play the ball in his own penalty area. Therefore it is only a YC for DOGSO

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    3. Try to play the ball?

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    4. Attempt to play ball is now YC, folks. Has been for two years. :)

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    5. Yes, it was tackle on the ball. From behind, which decrease the chance to play the ball but the leg was few centimeters from the ball (you could saw it on the replay)

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    6. It is the new rule for kindness - too harsh desicion in the other way, it is yellow because the last defender was not tackling with excesive force plus trying to play with the ball.

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    7. Big problem with rule, and likely to be changed. There should be a distinction between what was determined to be the last defender (prior to GK)and the last man prior to an empty net. There should be a distinction between "denying a goal scoring opportunity and denying a 100% goal. Here was a case where the only deterrent for a foul clearly intended to prevent a goal was a meaningless yellow card.

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    2. Attempt to play the ball. I can understand why they thought so.

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    3. Because he tried to play the ball and in theory he could have reached it. Therefore only YC. I think the law was changed around 2016

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    4. He didn't have any chance to play the ball, so red card

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    5. There was a defense player around.

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    6. New updated Law 12. DOGSO un the penalty box but with genuine attention to play the ball.

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    7. 'There was a defense player around'
      Omg, and you are observer?
      Sorry, but this what you said is unacceptable

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    8. I'm quite shocked to read such a statement too :/

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    9. I was wrong.

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  23. Ok that seems like a genuine attempt to play the ball so YC seems to be the correct call there... Pitana got it right, I must correct myself!

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    1. YC was the right call. A few years ago this would be unimagined.

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    2. Yeah live it looked an absolutely nailed on RC... Credit to Pitana for spotting the genuine attempt to play the ball... But seemed to be quite far away from play, did Pitana... But right call in the end!

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    1. That is NOT the criteria. Attempt to play ball is criteria. This was a clear attempt to play ball. In fact, he missed ball by 1-2".

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  25. For me is clear res card, because ther weren’t possibile to play the ball.

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    1. You could saw on the replay how close to ball defender's leg was

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    2. Right, but he's directly behind the defender and has no chance to win the ball legally. In my opinion the defender just went down there knowing he would take out the attacker.

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  26. IMO it’s difficult to consider that the player tries to play the ball... should’ve been a red to me !

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    1. There is enough doubt on seeing the replay... I think Pitana got it right!

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    2. I hope you’re right, although I think Faghani must be happy :D

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    3. More convincing Faghani yesterday than Pitana today if you ask me, and we both know they are serious candidates for the final

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    4. Ufffff... Pitana was very good also... Faghani's last minutes weren't the best!

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    5. There are still other referees with big chances for the final match, just wait who will be chosen...

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    6. I know, but I imagine that a non-UEFA referee will be chosen this time, and in that case Pitana and Faghani appears to be the favourites (since the poor performances of Irmatov in Group Stage)

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  27. Red card DOGSO. Yellow card for Schmeichel.

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  28. Laws of the game - YC
    Spirit of the game - RC

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    1. So YC is the correct call!

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    2. Exactly, we can blame those, who wanted to get rid of the "triple punishment"

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  29. The Defender could hit the ball, yellow cart is absolutelly correct by current rules of the game.

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  30. Some replays showing that Schmeichel was off his goal line before Modric kicked the ball... Should the PK had been retaken? I want to re-watch the goalie's actions during the penalty!

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    1. That's not important about 3-4 years

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    2. I remember there was huge furore in Euro 2016 in Spain v Croatia match when Kuipers missed such a situation and Collina said it was an error and referees need to clamp down on it... So this was an error and kick should've been retaken? Where was VAR?

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    4. Yes, because it was ugly to see how many players entered the penalty area and how far they reached

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    5. Oh, I would like to see referee who would repeat that penalty in 116 minute. Great performance by Pitana, that is all.

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    6. @Referee 12

      All 35 referees may choose to ignore that but a mistake will still remain a mistake! It's an error that's for sure, maybe not very massive but for sure a wrong call!

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  31. Again great performance tonight. "BigBro watching you" Pitana close to perfection.

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  32. Schmeichel clearly came off his line before the kick multiple times but not once did Pitana caution him or order retakes... I'm sorry but that's quite a significant mistake at this level and that too more than once!

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    1. I dont remember when was the last time i saw penalty retaken for that

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    2. I think 1-2 metres u can ignore at that level

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    3. As stated below. Both keepers did. So multiple “crucial” mistakes.

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    4. @Filip Vickovic in IRL-NED of Euro U17 this year.

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    5. Here is a ref who sctually cared about this law. This was before you got a yellow card for it.
      https://youtu.be/erdYfgregHs

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    6. @Ssendiwala You are right. That much leeway is given but in most of the cases today, both GKs went way out of the line. Even the penalty kick in extra time which Modric missed, Schmeichel was way down the line... That should've been retaken!

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    7. Mr.soham surely just imagine when u a the referee.can u order for the retake? When u do it here in our local league,fans can kill u.

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    8. I used to overlook it in my games initially but after the Collina reminder in 2016 I penalise it more regularly... There will be dissent but we must manage it... And do you why fans and players won't accept our decision if we follow the LOTG correctly? Because the referee at the World Cup level, at the biggest stage ignored it and failed to set an example!

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    9. Thanks,but apart from that pk incidents Pitana has put up a very strong perfomance.He has proved everybody why he is at this world cup.

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    10. He is a very good referee and he has been always good in all his World Cup games till date!

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  33. How do you Assen the penalty series? Both keepers Made several saves after coming off the line to early. At euro 16 it was the end of Kuipers tournemant After making such error.

    Personally i consider it as a few fouls with impact. At least once Pistana should ‘ve called for a retaking of the penalty. On both sides offcourse.

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    1. Kuipers' tournament didn't end, he got a Quarter-final appointment after that but it was acknowledged by Collina and Kuipers himself that it was mistake not to retake the penalty and caution the GK... If the kick is missed, the retake must be taken! And during the penalty in added time Schmeichel was way down a long before!

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    2. Agreed. For PK saved at 115' AR2 was in charge of GK and Pitana for the rest of the players.
      I am not sure for the kick from the mark to determine the winner, how they shared the responsibilities.

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  34. Best image I've found about the PK situation.

    Genuine attempt to play the ball.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhDEc0YWAAILjet.jpg

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  35. Nearly nobody cares about that "jumping a bit too early". Big majority of refs only calls for repeat when a goalie is "jumping around". I am ok with that.

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    1. Collina had clearly said during Euro 2016 that it is a clear mistake by referees to ignore such situations and referees must be extra cautions to notice and clamp down on such situations!

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    2. I know. But Collina is not god and that is nonsense IMO. Here in Germany exactly nobody cared and cares about that strictly. The last one I remember was Lubos Michel in active times. But even that was nearly a half second. Here much less. Makes no sense

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  36. This is not Dogso-denial of goal scoring Opportunity. This is DENIAL of GOAL. No one is btw goal line and ball.

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    1. Anyway, the criteria for issuing YC or RC is not how great is the GSO, but the "sportmanship" of the offence that denies it.

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    2. Sorry what??? This is a DOGSO and yellow card.

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    3. As Quilava mentioned, it's not imoprtant how great is the GSO until player is trying to play the ball.

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  37. I didn't watch the game, nice to read all your comments.
    I checked now the penalty incident and it is indeed very interesting.
    When I watched it live, I was sure that the only target of the player with that tackle was to hit and stop the opponent, however a replay from a camera behind the goal shows that defender is not so far away from the ball and one can't exclude 100% that it was a genuine attempt. In my opinion, in this case the only thing to do should be to read the mind of defender but for the referee it is of course impossible.
    So, given the change about DOGSO, this YC is fully justified and maybe even correct for FIFA committee, however RC wouldn't have been wrong as well.
    The criteria for assessing if player could have played the ball in this case are not enough, one could still say ball was there, close to the tackle made by defender, but you can then disagree...
    Knowing Busacca and his attitude to avoid always the major punishment when possible, he will be surely content with that.

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  38. Question: In two matches the penalty was a clear error (Brasil, Senegal). No card/free kick. The ball is then dropped on the goal area line. In both situations the attacking team did not contest the dropped ball. Do anyone know if there is discussed a code of conduct here, or if it is just a poor tactical descision from Brasil/Senegal? (If the ref did it correct from the strart, the ball would have been in play in the goal area)

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  39. Also the first penalty should be retaken because Rebic and Kjaer got into the box.
    Pitana warned the GK`s before the shoutout about the goal line and both laughed and dissmised it later, after making that assesment he should do smth else, Cesar Ramos had the same about Perreira caution and missing yellow card. Bad management from Pitana there. It is time for actions, not only warnings.

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  40. Sure the ref has the wiggle room to say the defender "was playing the ball", I just don't understand why he wanted to rule that way when clearly the tackle was intended to prevent a goal scoring opportunity, in fact a 100% goal as net was vacated. I wonder what he rules if VAR gets involved in this and he were to view the replays that we all saw?

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