Danny Makkelie is ready to officiate UEFA Europa League final. Let's discuss his performance here.
21 August 2020, 21:00 CET - Köln (Rhein-Energie-STADION)Sevilla FC (ESP) - FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Mario Diks (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Fourth Official: Anastasios Sidiropoulos (GRE)
Video Assistant Referee: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Kevin Blom (NED), Pawel Gil (POL)
Offside Video Assistant Referee: Pawel Sokolnicki (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Hugh Dallas (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Per Svärd (SWE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Hugh Dallas (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Per Svärd (SWE)
OOT. About new uefa referee badge from a trusted source uefa has sent an explanation leter to all head of referees in each country. Strange thing is they haven't use any email for that but they have chosen to send directly the badges and the explanation letter inside the package.
ReplyDeleteI have read a very interesting article about that here:
Deletehttps://www.sportschau.de/fussball/championsleague/fussball-champions-league-europa-league-schiedsrichter-logo-uefa-fifa-100.html
It is reported that UEFA has sent the new badges without any explanation for the changes, statement by Lutz Michael Fröhlich (DFB). If what you report is true, maybe this happened later?
Benoît Bastien is currently wearing his FIFA badge for Bordeaux - Nantes.
DeleteYes, because he is not officiating an international game. But for example, for Italian officials, FIFA badges will totally disappear because they don't wear it in domestic competitions.
DeleteIncorrect. All FIFA match officials will wear their FIFA badges in FIFA competitions. The new UEFA badge is only to be used in UEFA competitions.
DeleteI have read that article. My information its correct.The infofmation letter was only for head of referee in every country. What is written in that letter i really don't know.
DeleteWill the WC qualifiers count as FIFA or UEFA competitions under that aspect?
DeleteIt will be fifa badge. And addidas uniform.
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DeleteTough start, two hard fouls by Inter before we hit 1:00!
ReplyDeleteWow, a penalty in the third minute! A flying start! Yellow for SPA holding seems correct to me, commentators asking for red but not from that angle to me.
DeleteAngle? Heading towards goal?
DeletePenalty to Inter
ReplyDeleteFor me is correct.
DeleteFully correct. And YC.
DeleteExcellent decision. Holding outside the penalty area then stomp on INT#9's ankle inside.
DeleteWHAT A START
ReplyDeleteThat's a "genuine attempt" to play the ball?
ReplyDeleteHmmm, I learn something new (not necessarily correct) every time I watch a UEFA referee.
No, in my opinion the yellow card is for SPA. There was no DOGSO here. https://streamable.com/rukxes He is very wide and just about level with another defender.
DeleteI have to say I agree. What could be grounds for a YC? Makkelie seemed to indicate something, but not sure what. For me, that was DOGSO through holding, thus a RC
DeleteHe indicated that the cause of the fall was tripping in his opinion, therefore YC
DeleteHe's beyond the defender.
DeleteHas control of the ball.
Is heading towards (not away) from the goal.
The other Sevilla defenders are not in positions to challenge Lukaku.
The Sevilla player makes no genuine attempt to play the ball. He grabs Lukaku's shoulder and tramples all over Lukaku's heels. Neither of those actions are genuine attempts to play the ball.
The very cause of the fall is the stomp on his foot... I mean... Looking at the replays, YC can be justified, in any case, this wouldn't be VAR stuff no matter what his original decision is IMO
DeleteMaybe we can think of technicalities as to why a YC can be justified, but from a sportsman perspective the Sevilla defender should have always been sent off in my opinion. All players are fully prepared, then 3 minutes into the match Diego Carlos consciously decides to hang onto the incredibly strong and quick Lukaku as if he wants to be Lukaku's Siamese twin, while being the last defender. Diego Carlos is by doing this not asking for a RC, he basically demands a RC. And he even dares to protest against the YC. I'm sorry, but as a football fan, I want the Sevilla defender to be sent to the showers. His actions appear to me as dumb, unsporting and out of touch with reality
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ReplyDeleteI was the holding. The Sevilla player literally started hugging Lukaku outside and then grabbed his shoulder.
DeleteYeah, I've deleted my original comment, but since you reacted first... Originally I thought it was DOGSO-tripping, however after seeing the replays I'm quite okay with SPA holding as well, he was just too wide
DeleteIn my opinion the holding was only relevant outside the penalty area. And then the kick/stamp was the relevant foul for the penalty. Whether that is a "genuine attempt to play the ball" can be discussed.
DeleteHowever I also think, that Makkelie decided for SPA anyway (based on his gestures).
For me, it's rather DOGSO though - path towards the goal, and IMO the other defender couldn't intervene.
Not a clear situation anyway.
Lukaku is beyond the defender.
DeleteLukaku has control of the ball.
Lukaku is heading towards (not away) from the goal.
The other Sevilla defenders are not in positions to challenge Lukaku.
The Sevilla player makes no genuine attempt to play the ball. He grabs Lukaku's shoulder and then simply tramples all over Lukaku's heels. Neither of those actions are genuine attempts to play the ball.
Am I missing anything?
Spin it in whatever manner makes you feel better about Makkelie. But the images don't lie.
Correct penalty, for me YC is a fully supportable decision, even in case of NOT GENUINE ATTEMPT to play ball inside the box, there are room for considering it SPA and not DOGSO, given the position and the fact that there were other defenders. In case Makkelie had issued RC, it wouldn't have been changed by VAR as well.
ReplyDeleteCouldn't agree more, I'd just add my remark... VAR not only wouldn't have changed his decision, but in this case SHOULDN'T ever try to overturn a decision like this, no matter what the original decision would be...
DeleteNow correctly rejected handball appeal in Sevilla's PA. Conte booked on the bench. Very challenging game so far
ReplyDeleteFinally YC for Conte, just disgusting behaviour
ReplyDeleteIt's deteriorating for the Dutchman. Not surprised. Not all teams, players, coaches want to be buddy buddy with Mr. Makkelie.
ReplyDeleteSorry, I don't understand about your comments
DeleteSorry but Makkelie is nowhere near a „buddy“ for the players. He always seems rather distanced to me
DeleteThe players certainly are not distanced. They seem to be in his face all too often.
DeleteThis guy's a troll, please don't feed him.
DeleteMakkelie had a solid first 30 minutes of a match where he was being challenged by both sides. Master class refereeing.
Larry +1
DeleteBravo, Danny ! Correct YC for Conte !
ReplyDeleteVery difficult game for Makkelie, benches are in big tension.
ReplyDeleteI think correct decision to play on following this penalty appeal by Inter. Arm was quite close to body. Never a clear and obvious mistake, even more if Makkelie had already made a specific assessment on that, and it seems so.
Not clear - as too often with handball situations.
DeleteHowever based on recent decisions in UEFA competitions, I rather expected a penalty here. The arm slightly moves in the path of the ball and increases the body surface.
We have seen PK's gifted for supposed handling that seemed a lot less clear. Consistency? Uniformity? Nowhere to be found.
DeleteWell, we can see that arm slightly moves only in very slow motion. You can’t give PK based on slow motion. In real time that move is invisible.
DeleteNow a handball shout, arm by the side, moves *every so slightly* out as the ball comes, but I support the no call. It wasn't glued to the side but it was very low and in a natural position. Conte booked for his protests
ReplyDeleteYeah... This debate though just proves that this wouldn't be VAR stuff no matter what the original decision would be. And literally deciding the match by a PK + RC in 3' would certainly not be a good approach even from the tactical point of view...
ReplyDeleteNow IMO missed YC for INT#33 (SPA). At least a warning is needed here.
ReplyDeleteI agree that Makkelie on a few instances in this game could have made better use of public warnings, such as both the fouls in the first minute. Having some issues with control so far (very understandable in what has been an extremely challenging first 20 minutes). He’s gotten all the decisions correct in my opinion (I think SPA here would have been harsh) and that’s the most important thing. His management hasn’t been perfect, but IMO it’s been a very good performance In an extremely challenging game to this point.
Delete*the only decision I would maybe have liked to see different is: the strike to the head in the first minute could have been a yellow. Not absolutely necessary, though it may have helped a lot with the temperature very quickly rising.
DeleteThis was an YC which had to been shown, as the arm was clearly used as a tool. Even in a final
DeleteCorrect penalty, good YC. After that, correct no handball penalty to me. No movement to the ball, arm was moved away.
ReplyDeleteCorrect YC to the trainer.
Players should really ask themselves what the hell they are doing in their behavior. Makkelie can't do anything right - and he is not to blame for that at all in my opinion, cause I have not yet seen a wrong decision, and neither have I seen bad communication or whatever.
Scapegoat the players? That's funny!
DeletePlayers don't want to play?
Players don't want to abide by The Laws of the Game?
Players want to misbehave?
The referee has the authority to put a stop to all of this.
What is missing today is the ability and/or willingness by Makkelie.
Of course. The only shame is of course that you are not there.
DeleteNobody is there silly. There are no fans in the stadium. Are you not aware of that?
DeleteYou know, it's very clear that your only way to respond to people is by insulting them. Make clear they are less. Because your knowledge and talents are só much better.
DeleteSo my question to you is easy. Why do you need to start this respond with an insult?
Insult? I insulted you?
DeleteYes. Try to read your own comments. And once you did so, and you don't find it, maybe conclude you are not so consistent as you think you are. It is a bit strange to always be angry about not acting against dissent, and always insult people who don't agree with you.
DeleteThe player from Inter could have been booked for simulation a few ago, however play on OK decision. Never penalty. Already a very challenging game.
ReplyDeleteBrych was roasted by most of you for the amount of dissent he allowed. Yet today you very same people are silent. Makkelie has been mobbed (Brych never was), the players and coaches have dissented to the majority of his decisions. Keep up the consistency. Lol
ReplyDeleteIn my eyes, it is unreal that for example Barella goes out without a card. He has been constantly mobbing Makkelie with strong gestures and words. Just waving him away with his hand wasn't enough at all for my taste.
DeleteI agree. But I am not surprised by what most "referee experts" on this site write. What they express is heavily swayed and influenced by how much they either like or dislike a certain referee.
DeleteI love Makkelie but the double standard in the thread is crazy. Lots of big names on this site have lost credability imo.
DeleteAt least 2 missed YC's so far. Many people were roasting previous refs for much less.
DeleteWhat names?
DeleteIf the shoe fits, wear it. Those people know who they are. Those people are willing to misconstrue The Laws of the Games to suit their biased support of certain referee's.
DeleteNo one here had ever called themselves an expert. Very interesting to see you can not have a decent discussion without losing credibility or being accused of having 'a double standard' of being heavily swayed. If you are so bothered by opinions of others that are different from your own, you might as well not look on this website anymore.
DeleteMy dear Sheriff, you are totally right. We could all learn from your consistency in polluting the threads of this blog. Please go seek professional help ;-)
DeleteThis game has only shown how refereeing (with VAR, ambiguous hand ball laws etc.) is no longer a simple case of following 'the book'. If that frustrates you so much that you feel the need to personally attack other people, that is very sad IMO.
DeleteYou mean to tell me that I am not liked by you? You dislike what I post? Are you telling me that I am not popular? I couldn't care less. Don't be wishy washy and don't flip flop. Be consistent. Hold all referee's to the same standard.
DeleteI really urge you to go seek help, although I guess it might already be too late if you are asking yourself (and answering!) rhetorical questions on the internet.
DeleteI think what most people are trying to say is that Law 5 is one of the Laws of the Game as well... Which very clearly states, that all "decisions will be based on the opinion of the referee"... Not every situation in football is either black or white... Your comments suggest otherwise, at least in my opinion...
DeleteSheriff did not attack anybody by name. If you are taking it apon yourself perhaps that means you are the problem. He is also absolutely correct about the double standards seen here especially since the restart of the CL. Did not used to be so biased here. Irrespective of the reasons, Makkelie lost control at times in the first half. One could argue perhaps because he let dissent and fouls go unpunished by YC's. However, other refs were critized for similar issues. However, many people including some of the main contributers to this thread are finding excuses to cover this up.
DeleteWho do you perceive as "main contributers"?
DeleteI do not want to name anybody and directly attack them right now as that is not my style. But if you check previous threads I have brought up these issues with certain people. Also, those contributers know who they are.
Delete+1
DeleteVery challenging game, but very less respect for Makkelie.
ReplyDeleteCaused by missed YCs?
What missed YCs? The only debatable one is the arm in the first minute.
DeleteThat should have been shown, than at the same position before half time, a YC can be debatable.
DeleteNow anotherone missed for holding.
I like Makkelie's performance but handball should be penalty imo. Clear hand move to the ball.
ReplyDeleteDisagree. For me is no penalty and play on is correct. I see no hand move.
DeleteWe have very recently seen PK's gifted for supposed handling that seemed a lot less clear.
DeleteConsistency? Uniformity? Nowhere to be found.
@Modern<By the Book
DeleteCome on, please stop expressing the same opinion 15 times and argue all the time. We got the point
Well, this must be one of the most interesting UEL finals in years.
ReplyDeleteAnd I'm missing it! >.<
DeleteWell, you're missing something. Not that the football is so great. But 2-2....
DeleteIt's a bit like the CL final of 2014. Let's be honest, most finals are the most honored matches, but not the most interesting ones, cause everybody wants to play safe. This final is by no means safe.
Through the first half, I think the two most important things are:
ReplyDelete1) This has been an extremely challenging match so far.
2) Makkelie’s decisions on the two penalty incidents in the Sevilla penalty area were spot on
You can talk about a yellow card here or there that you would have preferred (personally I think there are some fair criticisms about his lenient approach failing to adapt quickly enough), but given the facts I listed above, it has been an excellent performance anyways.
I rarely saw a so challenging first half in a UEFA final with a score already 2-2. I can alreayd say that CL final for Orsato will be surely less difficult than this one, it is difficult to believe the contrary.
ReplyDeleteIn this context I think that Makkelie did well in first half. The behaviors from both teams was not the best, to say it in kind words, and this didn't help referee.
Crucial decisions: in my opinion all are at least supportable and I can agree with Makkelie at first and with VAR in second instance. Not a 100% clear RC when the penalty to Inter was whistled, not a 100% punishable handball a few later. In this case, it is true that there is a short movement of the arm when ball is coming, but in my opinion this small evidence is not enough for considering it as a clear punishable handball. Makkelie made his assessment from the pitch, VAR was right in supporting. The third situation was a possible simulation, fully agree with NO PENALTY call. Good decision to book coach from Inter, it is true that overall Makkelie could have booked other players, but please let's also say that this was not the best approach from both teams to this final. I don't see faults by the Dutch if game was already so challenging. Let's see how things will turn in second half to make then a final assessment about that. The rest of cards issued were OK.
Just a small answer to Mr. By The Book, everybody is allowed to have an opinion, I'm tolerating you on this blog by years and years, I'm quite annoyed, but you are still here. You can express your ideas without provoking always, in every possible way, other readers. You already present yourself as very weak person, because after a certain time, you delete always all your comments. Looks to be cowardice or stupidity, I don't know. You can chose. I'm really tired.
Last but not least, we should not forget that referee is at his first very important final, so you have to analyze also this aspect. Nobody is perfect, there are for sure points for improvements, but in this context ending first half without major issues and without VAR is a success. That's my opinion.
Boss, since you possess all the power. Make your move. Go ahead, delete my comments. You're quite good at doing that. As you've often deleted any dissenting comments that don't fit your "coddle the referee" narrative. Don't try to intimidate me with empty threats.
DeleteWhy would he need to delete your comments, Sheriff? Everyone can see you for the bully that you are.
DeleteAnd besides, you usually do that quite well yourself, don't you?
So where exactly did he threaten you? You seem to have quite a victim complex, there is always some conspiracy going on according to you... No comment in this blog that you disagree with could possibly be made in good faith.
Deletea part of law 5: Decisions will be made to the best of the referee's ability according to the Laws of the Game and the ‘spirit of the game’ and will be based on the opinion of the referee, who has the discretion to take appropriate action within the framework of the Laws of the Game.
ReplyDeleteI think Makkelie did great so far in the spirit of the game. Refereeing a match is to have feeling for the game, not strictly follow the letter of the book.
SV: That's exactly what I stated in my comment above - commenting Mr. By the book's statements...
DeleteI would recommend ignoring Sheriff, don't respond to his provocations, he will get bored eventually.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately I was out and missed the first half but I saw the penalty clip.
Besides any theoretical considerations (you can make quite good arguments for DOGSO and SFP there IMO), it's 100% clear that UEFA's solution would be a YC, especially in a final.
You can agree or disagree with that track, I have my own view, but that's not Makkelie's fault.
Let's enjoy the 2H!
Good point on the SFP case, I remember stamps on the top of the ankle like this one being systematically punished by RC in the beginning of La Liga season.
DeleteYeah I tend to try and just scroll past his comments now.
DeleteWell, this holding (49') is a missed YC for me. It's too blatant to not caution it.
ReplyDeleteAgreed, clear LoR offence.
DeleteMandatory booking for me too.
DeleteNo YC for Jordan is first clear mistake by Makkelie
ReplyDeleteSorry to say that but the blog has been destroyed by some persons. In the past it was a pleasure to read all the opinions here but now... it's a waste of time for someone involved in professional refereeing.
ReplyDeleteIf you can't deal with dissenting opinions on a blog. How can you possibly deal with it on a football pitch.
DeleteThe player that should have been sent off. Now scores the possibly winning goal.
ReplyDeleteThe player that IN YOUR OPINION should have been sent off.
ReplyDeleteIt's not a fact, it's your opinion.
Come on, everything he says must be the verb!
DeleteSpin it in whatever manner makes you feel better about Makkelie's decision which has undoubtedly directly influenced the outcome of the match.
Deletea decision that directly influenced the outcome of the match, is not necessary a wrong decision
DeleteIt is when it is not supported by The Laws of the Game.
Deleteand it is your OPINION that this decision was not supported by the LotG.
DeleteI have another opinion.
"in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off."
Delete'Decisions will be made to the best of the referee's ability according to the Laws of the Game and the ‘spirit of the game’ and will be based on the opinion of the referee, who has the discretion to take appropriate action within the framework of the Laws of the Game.'
DeleteOfficials failing to enforce The Laws of the Game do nobody, including their fellow officials, any favors. However, officials who enforce The Laws of the Game diligently should be praised for their diligence.
DeleteThings are very calm in second half. Makkelie won the approach.
ReplyDeleteYes, absolutely true. the tactical approach looks te be the right one
DeleteWell, we can say that almost everything happened in first half, so you can read again my previous comment at half time to know my opinion. Second half was by far less challenging, however in this case there is in my opinion one clear mistake: yellow card missed for the holding in the midfield. About that, one can't discuss, we can see many examples in RAPs. I think Makkelie had not the exact perception of the holding, otherwise he would have booked. The rest, OK. I think that overall he can be satisfied with the performance, a good one in a very challenging game. There was the danger that in second half both teams would have escalated the poor behavior but this didn't happen. Despite of being a final without spectators, it was the most difficult final I can remember by years.
ReplyDeleteWell, that was an 8,5 performance for me. Very challenging first half, which he did very well, good card for dissent to the coach. I think it was good not to be too fast with YC for dissent in the first half, but he calmed it down quite well actually. It would be 8.6 for me, but the missed YC for holding should be -0,1.
ReplyDeleteCompletely agree with you, RikB. Excellent performance. Congratulations!!! Well done
DeleteI left my comment below before seeing yours and I said pretty much the same thing
DeleteCongratulations to Makkelie!
ReplyDeleteGOAT performance by Makkelie tonight. Excellent. He shut up(sory for strong phrase) everybody, especially french media. Hope to see him in CL final next year. But, with spectators. Cheers!!!
ReplyDeleteWhat is wrong with french media?
DeleteExcuse to France, I meant Brithish Telegraph, and Dick Jol.
DeleteBy a Ref Fot, a big supporter of Danny.
DeleteOnce more: the criticism was towards UEFA and the appointment, not towards Makkelie
DeleteGOAT lol, are you on a Makkelie's payroll?
DeleteGuys, I'm not supporter of Danny or Bjorn, or Antonio, or Clats. I'm just supporter of good officiating. Goat was way to show my compliments to him. I just would like to answer to Anonymous that nobody on this world can buy my officiating opinion or anything else. Cheers.
DeleteVery good Makkelie tonight!
ReplyDeleteI think Makkelie's biggest flaw is his disciplinary decisions; at least there was the missed YC 48' (which hrut his credibility on later cautions) and, in my opinion, early in the first half I think he should have been a little stricter, perhaps a YC in the first minute or for dissent would have been preferable.
ReplyDeleteBut really, I think these criticisms are not a huge deal in comparison with the rest of his performance. This was definitely a very challenging game, and he got two critical penalty kick decisions spot on, AND correctly did not send off the player called for the penalty. I wouldn't say this performance was "very good", but definitely "good", in a very challenging match. 8.5 or 8.6
As two of the crucial situations are in the grey area (at least in my opinion), I would not count those decisions as positive points, but just neutral. It's not really an accomplishment, when a coinflip could also have taken the decision.
DeleteI would give a slight minus for the problems with match control in the first quarter. However he gained that back and lead a tight match well until the end - this evens the "match control" aspect out.
Foul detection was on a good level, regarding card selection I agree with you.
Overall for me "only" in the expected level category - which obviously still a good achievement in a challenging match.
+1 to Philipp. Beside this, we can debate if the YC for holding is not -.2, because it's clearly mandatory. And about another -.1 for the Foul in first half.
DeleteBut, of course, it doesn't matter in a Final. He managed a Final without crucial mistakes and at the end with full match control. Well done, great Job!
Besides the fact that a single missed YC in UEFA will never lead to a reduction of 0.2 (how do you come to this idea, and when should a reduction of 0.1 be applied?)
DeleteI don’t really sympathise with the mathematicians here, especially those who easily reduce and don’t add on.
Congratulations to Makkelie, deserved appointment where he did overall good tonight.
ReplyDeleteOf course, there is the RC/YC decision where we all have our thoughts (I personally would have shown RC, but YC is a supportable choice so whatever) and some situations of dissent management in 1H, or even the YC missed in 48', but it seems irrevelant compared to the rest of his game and the picture of his performance is bright definitely.
He can be proud of what he reached, and he is for sure a name to keep following in the next years.
Makkelie under pressure, allows a little too much right where he is strongest
ReplyDeleteI can only express my happiness about a really good performance of Makkelie in an extremely challenging game. He struggled to win control and he won. He kept the distance he needed but never lost communication and finally got the full respect by the players. One or two missed YCs, all the rest very good. Hopefully that was not the last final Danny Makkelie was in charge of. Well done!
ReplyDeleteBoth teams were very undisciplined, with Makkelie having to intervene early in the first 30 minutes. Add to this two key match incident decisions that were, in my opinion correct and fully supportable.
ReplyDeleteI believe the match temperature started very high, but thanks to Makkelie being proactive and having a strong personality, he kept things relatively calm for most of the rest of the match. Things could have easily spiraled out of control.
We can argue about the missed holding YC in the midfield. But overall I think UEFA can continue to trust him with difficult matches in the future.
Excellent performance by Makkelie! Well deserved that he got the final and he backed it up with a brilliant performance.
ReplyDeleteWhy do professional referees call NOT SHOWING OBLIGATORY CARDS 'small mistakes'? Fot me this is a complete misunderstanding of the processes in a football game. When a player receives a card early he is not able to do tactical fouls when needed. And this automatically makes the team weaker. It is beyond me how such blatant mistakes like in the 48th minute some of you call small mistakes. I dare to think that a referee in the final of a European club tournament MUST show this card. On another note - it is complete nonsense if you say that the teams are guilty - the teams play how the referee allows them to play. Even more - by not dealing with their aggression the referee leads the game to an extreme risk for the health of the players. Referees should understand tha missing a yellow card is a BIG MISTAKE.
ReplyDelete+1
Delete#Facts
Brilliant comment Anonymous! How can anyone disagree? Just like a throw in awarded to the wrong side is often seen as small mistake, while obviously a goal can be achieved by the favored team! As well as an incorrect execution of a goal kick can have extremely severe consequences! Bravo! But now please get back to your FIFA20 game :)
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