Manchester City - Olympique Lyonnais is the last quarterfinal of 2019-20 UEFA Champions League KO stage. Dutch Elite Danny Makkelie will handle it.
Manchester City FC (ENG) - Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Mario Diks (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Fourth Official: Anastasios Sidiropoulos (GRE)
Video Assistant Referee: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Kevin Blom (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Šajn (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Eugène Westerink (NED)
Fourth Official: Anastasios Sidiropoulos (GRE)
Video Assistant Referee: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Kevin Blom (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Šajn (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Eugène Westerink (NED)
Too predictable:)
ReplyDeleteAjax are guaranteed a spot in the UCL Group Stage for next season if Lyon are out of this season's UCL. So for me, rather unlucky choice. It most probably won't influence Makkelie, but this should be avoided (because media will definitely point this out after a possible mistake).
ReplyDeleteI think that UEFA cannot always take peripheral issues into account. With every match and referee you can think of something or retrieve something from the past. They assume integrity and that involves appointments based on quality. Perhaps there is more pressure now on Makkelie because of extra attention. But elite referees should handle that.
DeleteUCL Q:
ReplyDeleteWednesday 19/8/2020 20.00 CET
Connah's Quay Nomads FC (Wal) - FK Sarajevo (BiH)
R: Jamie Robert Robinson (NIR)
AR1: Gareth Eakin (NIR)
AR2: Paul Robinson (NIR)
4th: Lee Philip Tavinder (NIR)
How is it possible?! Wales and NIR are in UK.
DeleteInteresting that appointments are made so early, I expected it tomorrow or saturday.
DeleteAnyway, moderators will make an article with full appointments, thats for sure.
In Coronavirus times one can understand this choice, most important thing is that officials are from another country, however with so many games and most of the referees having to make long / important travels, one could wonder whether it is fair to apply this policy only in some games...
DeleteIn any case, I will never blame UEFA for something like that, we are still living in a very particular period of the history.
And... yes: posts with CL and EL assignments for first rounds will follow soon...
Great match for Makkelie and indeed an expected appointment.
ReplyDeletePredictions for Europa League semifinals:
ReplyDeleteSevilla - Manchester United
Felix Brych (GER)
Inter - Shakhtar Donetsk
Clément Turpin (FRA)
Mines are:
DeleteSevilla-Manchester: Brych
Inter-Shakhtar: Hategan
Taking into account his UCL quarter-final, Hategan seems planned by UEFA for a UEL semi-final in Germany. Unless he will be swapped with Cakir in UCL semis.
DeleteI meant UCL R16, not QF.
DeleteAnyone seen/heard about this outrageous incident in Russia?
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/arturpetrosyan/status/1293084787750699010?s=21
In my opinion the player should be arrested.
DeleteOne question,
ReplyDeleteChefren do you have a list of referee for the first half 2020/21
What do you mean? UEFA categories? There haven't been changes so far and there aren't informations at moment in that regard. Maybe the next update will be made on December after 2020-21 group stage games.
DeleteYes UEFA categories, but actually I thought about changes to the list like new referee e.g. Munro (sco) Sabotic (lux) Ciochirca (aut) ...
DeleteHow many names are there?
The new FIFA referees have been added on January so you already find them in the list published for the second part of 2019-20 season.
Deleteokay you are right thanks.
Deletewhy the intl referee badges have been changed?
ReplyDeleteIn The Netherlands, there are serious rumours and calls to take Makkelie away from this game and the decision by UEFA has been called 'extremely stupid' (Dick Jol) and I can only agree with him. Makkelie can only lose, it seems like UEFA hasn't thought about this assignment for even one second. (For those who don't know: Ajax qualify for CL next season if Lyon don't win this season's CL and therefore the match is of great importance for Dutch football)
ReplyDeleteWhy do they care? I mean, the only one who could potentially worry is the french side.
DeleteAnd I dont think this will influence Makkelie at all, he is a great professional.
Most people in The Netherlands haven't taken Dick Jol serious in a while.
DeleteWho is Dick Jol? The gambler? Lol
ReplyDeleteNo. Dick Jol was former as Final Referee in the Champions League 2001 in Milan between FC Valencia against FC Bayern Munich with penalties shoot
DeleteTo em the strange that is that if some people want to complain this appointment, they should be French, not Dutch.
ReplyDeleteExactly!
DeleteAs always the Telegraph. They have always been against Makkelie. I am sure he will ignore all of this and will continue his great season.
ReplyDeleteI realy don't uderstand this fuss about Makkelie, if you remember UEFA never cared for stuff like this.
ReplyDeleteLast year champions league semi final match Barcelona-Liverpool was refereed by Kuipers. Another semi final match was Tottenham-Ajax and was refereed by Mateu Lahoz. I don't think Makkelie will be removed.
I'm Dutch and I dont know why some old top refs always says negative things about current referees. Dick Jol and also Mario van der Ende often criticise the Dutch top refs. This time again.
ReplyDeleteAre they jealous that their time is over?
Danny Makkelie is a top referee and I think (and hope) he will confirm his great attitude and form in this big appointment.
Question: is he a candidatie for EL-final?
As fellow Dutchman I don’t have any doubt about Makkelie his professionalism. He will do his job as best as he can. Jol and others don’t question this. They are just stating that he can’t do it good for the media. If Lyon advances, the Dutch media will create a story. When City advances and Ajax will directly qualify for next seasons group stages the French media will.
ReplyDeleteYou can’t do it right either way. There I share the opinion that uefa should’ve avoided this situation.
Uefa could (maybe should) have switched makkelie and skomina around to avoid this fuss... makkelie is in better form than skomina too imo so it would have made sense..
DeleteExactly. No one doubts his integrity, but UEFA could have chosen another match for Makkelie, since there are other options; it is not a final.
ReplyDeleteLyon knows he wont even get in the finals, what are you talking about? They had luck against Juventus. City will give them at least 3 goals..
DeleteVery clever comment...
DeleteI hope Mlacko more specialist about refereeing than football world. No comment about your stupid words...
DeleteTo be honest I'm surprised by this absolutely meaningless polemic. If UEFA has appointed Makkelie, this means that he is fully allowed to handle this game. Moreover, it is not something related strictly to this match, so I really find it absurd that this news had such spread, as Makkelie was going directly to decide the future of Ajax, that's wrong. We should avoid such things, but even before that, we should never question the integrity of an UEFA Elite referee.
ReplyDeleteWell said. I am French and I think this polemic is nonsense. If we start to doubt of the integrity of an international referee, we can stop football right now.
DeleteIf you read carefully the comments above, people did not doubt the referee's integrity, but are simply asking why UEFA, having multiple resources did not avoid the situation altogether. That's all; no one pointed at Makkelie, but rather at UEFA's choice.
DeleteFully agree Chefren. And we have to add that absolutely no polemic in France about this. None press or football experts are speaking about this point. So, be confident with Danny Makkelie who is a great referee. :)
DeleteChefren, as said above i don’t have any questions about the integrity of Makkelie. Totally not. He can handle the match perfectly. My reaction would be the same when Kuipers was appointed for this match.
DeleteThe only thing is that UEFA should be wiser than they are now. They risk a situation nobody wanted and in which Makkelie can be the only victim. As we all know how politics work in modern football world.
Bull...it, should UEFA be wiser because some Dutch media make an issue of this? Frenchref clearly said that even in France this isn’t discussed. Apart from that, it’s not only this match that Lyon has to win to push Ajax into the qualifying round, they’ll have to win the Champions League.
DeleteAnd if UEFA would start taking these kind of issues into account, where do we stop? Can’t a Dutch referee handle any games of Juventus anymore because Matthijs de Ligt plays for Juventus? And can’t a Spanish ref handle a game of ManCity because Guardiola is the coach of that team?
It's a synthetic storm in the Netherlands media in order to put pressure on Makkelie. They probably knew about his appointment much longer than 48hrs before and had all these stories 'prepared'.
DeleteIt's telling that in France nobody gives a sh*t.
Cakir with semo final leipsig vs psg
ReplyDeleteInfo or guess?
DeleteUPDATE :
ReplyDeleteIn France today, many newspaper explain why there is a polemic about the choice of the Committee to appoint Danny Makkelie for this match.
However, not a single one of them say it would be a problem, since they explain Dick Jol’s point of view. I think that Jol inadvertently put a spotlight on this appointment, which adds pressure on Makkelie.
French newspapers usually don’t comment referee appointments, so I don’t think they would’ve mentioned it if it was not for Jol’s words.
No problem in France with this appointement where it is underlined that Danny was VAR on 2018 world cup final in Russia.
DeleteIt is also read they trust referee. Even if Lyon Chairman (Aulas) likes criticising refs.
No way Dutch ref will be great as in many game he was appointed for.
Prediction Leipzig - PSG: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
ReplyDeleteCan anyone confirm whether Cakir is still in Portugal or back home in Turkey?
DeleteOT:
ReplyDeleteLast-minute referee change in LaLiga play-offs (semifinals 2nd leg)
Isidro Díaz de Mera Escuderos (1989) is appointed for 2nd leg Almería-Girona match tomorrow after Dámaso Arcediano Monescillo (1984, originally appointed) tested Covid-positive 2 days ago.
Arcediano Monescillo has no symptoms and even tested negative yesterday, so if he's tested negative again he could be appointed for the final 1st leg.
Off topic: where can I get the uefa delegate handbook 2020? I have the 2004 edition.
ReplyDeleteOT: Appointments for EL First Qualifying Round.
ReplyDeleteRITERIAI (LTU) – DERRY (IRL)
Referee: Ville Nevalainen (FIN)
AR1: Sami Nykänen (FIN)
AR2: Turkka Valjakka (FIN)
FO: Petri Viljanen (FIN)
KAIRAT (KAZ) – FC NOAH (ARM)
Referee: Kristoffer Karlsson (SWE)
AR1: Joakim Nilsson (SWE)
AR2: Max Wilde (SWE)
FO: Fredrik Klitte (SWE)
VENTSPILS (LVA) - DINAMO AUTO (MDA)
Referee: Eldorjan Hamiti (ALB)
AR1: Nertil Bregasi (ALB)
AR2: Emigers Gançi (ALB)
FO: Kridens Meta (ALB)
BUDAPEST HONVÉD (HUN) – INTER TURKU (FIN)
Referee: Gal Leibovitz (ISR)
AR1: Tom Adi (ISR)
AR2: Matityahu Yakobov (ISR)
FO: Erez Papir (ISR)
TEUTA (ALB) – BEITAR JERUSALEM (ISR)
Referee: Nikolas Neokleous (CYP)
AR1: Pavlos Georgiou (CYP)
AR2: Omiros Tziortzis (CYP)
FO: Chrysovalantis Theouli (CYP)
KALJU (EST) – MURA (SVN)
Referee: Tim Marshall (NIR)
AR1: Stephen Bell (NIR)
AR2: David Anderson (NIR)
FO: Shane Andrews (NIR)
DINAMO MINSK (BLR) – PIAST GLIWICE (POL)
Referee: Lazar Lukić (SRB)
AR1: Dragan Bogičević (SRB)
AR2: Bojan Banovic (SRB)
FO: Aleksandar Živković (SRB)
SUMQAYIT (AZE) – SHKËNDIJA (ALB)
Referee: Arman Ismuratov (KAZ)
AR1: Sergei Vassyutin (KAZ)
AR2: Samat Tergeussizov (KAZ)
FO: Zhandos Abzhan (KAZ)
ALASHKERT (ARM) – RENOVA (MKD)
Referee: Nicholas Walsh (SCO)
AR1: Calum Spence (SCO)
AR2: Douglas Potter (SCO)
FO: Andrew Dallas (SCO)
APOLLON (CYP) – SABURTALO (GEO)
Referee: Sigurd Kringstad (NOR)
AR1: Geir Isaksen (NOR)
AR2: Isaak Skjeseth Bashevkin (NOR)
FO: Tom Harald Hagen (NOR)
BODØ/GLIMT (NOR) – KAUNO ZALGIRIS (LTU)
Referee: Kaarlo Oskari Hämäläinen (FIN)
AR1: Jukka Honkanen (FIN)
AR2: Veli-Matti Leppänen (FIN)
FO: Antti Munukka (FIN)
NEFTÇI BAKU (AZE) – SHKUPI (MKD)
Referee: Aleksandrs Golubevs (LVA)
AR1: Raimonds Tatriks (LVA)
AR2: Jevgenijs Morozovs (LVA)
FO: Artis Kenins (LVA)
OLIMPIJA LJUBLJANA (SVN) – VIKINGUR (ISL)
Referee: Walter Altmann (AUT)
AR1: Andreas Staudinger (AUT)
AR2: Santino Schreiner (AUT)
FO: Andreas Heiss (AUT)
LOCOMOTIVE TBILISI (GEO) – CRAIOVA (ROU)
Referee: Miloš Djordjic (SRB)
AR1: Jovan Grujic (SRB)
AR2: Nikola Djorovic (SRB)
FO: Momčilo Marković (SRB)
KESLA (AZE) – LAÇI (ALB)
Referee: Georgi Kikacheishvili (GEO)
AR1: Davit Gabisonia (GEO)
AR2: David Akhvlediani (GEO)
FO: Irakli Kvirikashvili (GEO)
VADUZ (LIE) – HIBERNIANS (MLT)
Referee: Luis Teixeira (AND)
AR1: Bruno Parente (AND)
AR2: Hugo Jourdan Pereira (AND)
FO: Joan Guiu Serra (AND)
MALMÖ (SWE) – KS CRACOVIA (POL)
Referee: Urs Schnyder (SUI)
AR1: Marco Zürcher (SUI)
AR2: Benjamin Zürcher (SUI)
FO: Alessandro Dudic (SUI)
HAMMARBY (SWE) – PUSKÁS AKADÉMIA (HUN)
Referee: Mario Zebec (CRO)
AR1: Borut Križarić (CRO)
AR2: Jerko Crnčić (CRO)
FO: Fran Jovic (CRO)
ROSENBORG (NOR) – BREIDABLIK (ISL)
Referee: Matthew De Gabriele (MLT)
AR1: Alan Camilleri (MLT)
AR2: Roberto Vella (MLT)
FO: Emanuel Grech (MLT)
FH (ISL) – FC DAC 1904 (SVK)
Referee: Jason Barcelo (GIB)
AR1: Andrew Parody (GIB)
AR2: Daniel Gómez Gordillo (GIB)
FO: Patrick Canepa (GIB)
THE NEW SAINTS (WAL) – ZILINA (SVK)
Referee: Manfredas Lukjancukas (LTU)
AR1: Vytis Snarskis (LTU)
AR2: Vladimir Gerasimov (LTU)
FO: Robertas Valikonis (LTU)
SHAKHTYOR (BLR) – SFINTUL GHEORGHE (MDA)
Referee: Dragan Petrovic (BIH)
AR1: Sreten Udovičić (BIH)
AR2: Damir Lazic (BIH)
FO: Luka Bilbija (BIH)
HAPOEL BEER-SHEVA (ISR) – DINAMO BATUMI (GEO)
Referee: Aleksandrs Anufrijevs (LVA)
AR1: Denis Sevcenko (LVA)
AR2: Romans Platonovs (LVA)
FO: Vitalijs Spasjonnikovs (LVA)
PETROCUB (MDA) – BACKA TOPOLA (SRB)
Referee: Luca Barbeno (SMR)
AR1: Francesco Lunardon (SMR)
AR2: Gianmarco Ercolani (SMR)
FO: Raffaele Delvecchio (SMR)
KUKËS (ALB) – SLAVIA SOFIA (BUL)
Referee: Arda Kardesler (TUR)
AR1: Kerem Ersoy (TUR)
AR2: Cevdet Komurcuoglu (TUR)
FO: Bahattin Simsek (TUR)
VALLETTA (MLT) – BALA (WAL)
Referee: Kári Jóannesarson Á Høvdanum (FRO)
AR1: Andrew Christiansen (FRO)
AR2: Jan Hermansen (FRO)
FO: Petur Reinert (FRO)
ZRINJSKI MOSTAR (BIH) – DIFFERDANGE (LUX)
Referee: Aristotelis Diamantopoulos (GRE)
AR1: Reinhard Buxbaum (GRE)
AR2: Konstantinos Psarris (GRE)
FO: Vassilis Fotias (GRE)
FCSB (ROU) – SHIRAK (ARM)
DeleteReferee: Admir Šehović (BIH)
AR1: Amer Macić (BIH)
AR2: Goran Dujak (BIH)
FO: Haris Kaljanac (BIH)
SERVETTE FC (SUI) – RUZOMBEROK (SVK)
Referee: Viktor Kopievskyi (UKR)
AR1: Volodymyr Vysotskyi (UKR)
AR2: Vitali Skoblia (UKR)
FO: Dmytro Kryvushkin (UKR)
LECH POZNAN (POL) – VALMIERA (LVA)
Referee: Ondřej Pechanec (CZE)
AR1: Jiří Moláček (CZE)
AR2: Jakub Hrabovský (CZE)
FO: Ondřej Berka (CZE)
PARTIZAN (SRB) – RFS (LVA)
Referee: Zaven Hovhannisyan (ARM)
AR1: Mesrop Ghazaryan (ARM)
AR2: Atom Sevgulyan (ARM)
FO: Henrik Nalbandyan (ARM)
SHAMROCK ROVERS (IRL) – ILVES (FIN)
Referee: Michal Ocenáš (SVK)
AR1: Ján Pozor (SVK)
AR2: Adam Jekkel (SVK)
FO: Peter Ziemba (SVK)
ABERDEEN (SCO) – NSÍ/BARRY TOWN WINNER
Referee: Ívar Orri Kristjansson (ISL)
AR1: Birkir Sigurdarson (ISL)
AR2: Oddur Helgi Gudmundsson (ISL)
FO: Thorvaldur Árnason (ISL)
MOTHERWELL (SCO) – GLENTORAN/HB WINNER
Referee: Bram Van Driessche (BEL)
AR1: Yves De Neve (BEL)
AR2: Kevin Monteny (BEL)
FO: Lawrence Visser (BEL)
Missing appointments as for now in:
DeleteBorac (BIH) - Sutjeska (MNE)
Ordabasy (KAZ) - Botosani (ROU)
Fehervár (HUN) - Bohemians (IRL)
Cska Sofia (BUL) - Sirens (MLT)
Maccabi Haifa (ISR) - Zeljeznicar (BIH)
AGF (DEN) - Honka (FIN)
Zalgiris (LTU) - Paide (EST)
Maribor (SVN) - Coleraine/La Fiorita winner
St. Joseph's/B36 winner - Levadia (EST)
Lincoln Red Imps/Prishtina winner - Pétange (LUX)
Santa Coloma/Iskra winner - Lokomotiv Plovdiv (BUL)
Tre Penne/Gjilani winner - APOEL (CYP)
Excellent spot for the first yellow card of the game by Makkelie.
ReplyDeleteAgree
DeleteThe cards are for both sides Mr Makkelie...
ReplyDeletei am not sure where did he missed YC(s) for City's players? Minute? Situation?
DeleteGundogan stopped a very promising counter attack 1 or 2 minutes before Lyon’s goal. Mandatory yellow in my book, especially because he had already opened the bookings.
DeleteGundogan for sure deserved to be cautioned. The Lyon player had a promising attack opportunity with an open field had Gundogan not fouled him.
DeleteI totaly missed that foul, maybe I was reading comments here on blog and missed it.
DeleteWOW, great NO FLAG by AR2 for 0-1! Congratulations!
ReplyDeleteJust wanted do write that. Great, just great no flag by Steegstra...
DeleteExcellent onside by AR2 Steegstra ! Wow!
ReplyDeleteIf I'm not wrong, it was reported that Makkelie asked AR2 to check the wall for a possible handball before this free kick whistled in 28', he came closer from the other half of the pitch to check that.
ReplyDeleteAnybody have a half way decent camera angle on that "on-side" call? UEFA and it's broadcast partners are doing a terrible job instilling any credibility in the VAR system with its replays.
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/dutchreferee/status/1294717115262554114/photo/1
DeleteLook at the right leg of City player, and also at the color of the grass. It is quite clear that Lyon player is onside.
Agree with Chefren, there is no need for special technology there to see it was onside.
DeleteIs that the best UEFA can offer? That's the same terrible angle that the TV broadcast showed. Where's the horizontal angle that would leave zero doubt?
DeleteYes it was quiet obviously onside.
DeleteI'm not convinced by a image taken at an angle on such a tight play. Move the camera a few degrees in either direction and the image completely changes.
DeleteNo it doesn't. Look at the lines made on the field by the cut of the grass.
DeleteTry watching every game at WC 2002 and assess every offside call using that wide shot only!
DeleteThe cut of the grass is not an infallible reference. As an AR I judge offside onside based on the position of the bodies.
DeleteYou're impossible. You wouldn't agree with someone if they told you the grass was green.
DeleteI don't know why some people always see some conspiracies by UEFA or FIFA. People, enjoy football and refereeing and stop spreading conspiraciy theories every day here on the blog...
DeleteFurthermore, i guess you are not an experienced AR since every AR instructor I have listened always sais to ARs to use cut of the grass as the help in tight situations.
DeleteAs an AR is it not imperative to always try to be in line with the 2nd to last defender? Not to be ahead or behind that player. Because a few steps ahead or behind changes your visual angle. This especially important on tight plays.
DeleteIn regards to VAR images. We've seen better camera angles used in the past. We've seen competitions draw the line to show onside offside. Yet here in the Quarterfinals of the UEFA Champions League. We get an angled image taken from the nose bleed seats.
Conspiracy? What are you talking about? There's no conspiracy here. My point is that UEFA can do better. They've done it better in the past. If they're going to implement a system. Use it to its full potential. To include necessary multiple camera angles to assist VAR's in doing their job.
DeleteI don't run down the line with my head down looking at the grass. My focus is across the pitch at the positioning of the players involved.
Regarding VAR technical set up: the biggest fault of VAR is in technical setup: case in point is in Lewandowski's goal, which from the angle at https://youtu.be/79y8vL69ynM?t=555 he looks obviously offside. VAR uses TV cameras, which are very far away from the action and at the wrong angle. There should be two cameras per half of field on each touchline near the penalty area to get the correct angle to see offside and fouls. One or two tv cameras nearer to the center of the field and too far away do not allow anyone to clearly see offside and many fouls, especially when offside is determined by centimeters. Unfortunately, the team owners or referee associations probably would not want to pay extra money for more cameras, but at least the technical set up of VAR should be up discussion and looked at critically.
ReplyDeleteMissed second YC in 33' for Fernandinho. Clear SPA.
ReplyDeleteNot clear, it doesnt need IMO.
DeleteWhy can't we the general public see what the VAR sees? Why is VAR being treated in such a secretive manner?
ReplyDeleteProbably because the referee associations wouldn't want us to see how unclear or unhelpful the video footage may be when a mistake is corrected or how clear and helpful it may be at other times when an obvious mistake isn't corrected.
DeleteIn Liga MX, whatever it is that the referee is seeing on the monitor. It is shown on the television broadcast.
DeleteFurthermore, I find it hard to believe that a Confederation as wealthy as UEFA can't afford to install more cameras in an empty stadium.
Makkelie, FO or AR1 MUST see this malicious foul from Walker... not the best performance tonight from the Dutchman if you ask me.
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ReplyDeleteFernandino elbow on aouar face could have been a YC...
ReplyDeleteSolid first half with an excellent call from AR2 leading to the 1-0.
ReplyDeleteGood first half by Makkelie!
ReplyDeleteI think that Makkelie did well in first half, I don't see mandatory cards missed, let's see whether second half, as one could expect, will be more challenging, given the score.
ReplyDeleteAgreed, good and steady first half by the Dutch team. In full control and as Chefren said no mandatory cards missed, sanctioning fits the pace and rhythm of the first half.
ReplyDeleteRare illegal throw in? What mistake?
ReplyDeleteLooked like advantage played when De Bruyne got pushed over, but a free kick a little past halfway line would be more advantageous.
ReplyDeletei must agree, I am very happy with Makkelie's performance in first half. He realy developed into great referee. I hope the second half will alsp be good for him.
ReplyDeleteAR2 signalized a very soft foul against City.
ReplyDeleteFernandinho is very close to second YC now...
ReplyDeleteVery soft yellow for Rodri IMO.
ReplyDeleteI agree. It seems sensible from a management perspective but there wasn't very much there.
DeleteI don't know why Fernandinho was substituted. It was obvious Danny wouldn't give him the second YC this year.
ReplyDeleteNext foul Ferdinanho will be sent off.
ReplyDeleteHe was substituted so I doubt it!
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ReplyDeleteI must say that despite the mistakes in foul detection and card management (IMO), Danny Makkelie is very enjoyable to watch on the field and has the right attitude towards the players. His management is remarkable.
ReplyDeleteHowever I expect more in foul detection / card management.
Good YC 65' but very risky to blow the whistle when de Bruyne is looking to shoot from 17 yards out! Worked out all right as the shot was blocked but why not wait another .5 seconds there?
ReplyDeleteNot the best moment to whistle, lucky Makkelie.
DeleteLater he wouldn't be allowed to whistle anymore as advantage was then played. So it was the last chance. Good anticipation.
DeleteMikael W:
ReplyDelete"Try watching every game at WC 2002 and assess every offside call using that wide shot only!"
Can you please elaborate on this comment? What is it that you mean to say?
Thanks!
Game will become more difficult for Makkelie now.
ReplyDeleteConvinced by the decision taken by Makkelie in this situation in 71': not enough for a penalty. He didn't hesitate, VAR check was very short.
ReplyDeleteYes, I thimk we would have new discussion about another "soft penalty" if he whistled that. Agree with the final decision not the awart a penalty.
DeleteWhere is the consistency among UEFA referees?
DeleteIn previous days it's a PK.
Today? No
IMO UEFA should give instructions to referees regarding situations like that to get uniformity.
DeleteThat was the quickest check ever. Record time.
ReplyDeleteThose have been given recently. Consistency?
Try running at full speed and then have somebody push you.
Hahaha. We all know what you would write if that penalty was given (hint: S-O-F-T)
DeleteI agree with you in part about those penalties have been given recently and there is obviously no consistency between referees. I think UEFA should put situations like this in RAP and say when this things should be whistled and when not.
DeleteAt least it would have been the least "S-O-F-T" of them all hahaha ;)
DeleteI'm okay with S-O-F-T, as long as there is consistency and uniformity among all referee's. If it was a PK yesterday, it should be a PK today and so on.
No penalty is ok for me.
ReplyDeleteThe player in offside touched the ball, I think this should be disallowed.
ReplyDeleteHe didn’t what replay were you watching.
DeleteDid he? I thought he let the ball pass.
DeleteWell, my mistake, so no touch and then excellent call by AR1.
DeleteOutstanding performance by both assistant referees.
To clarify, assessing not punishable the player who didn't touch the ball, was a top call by assistant referee.
DeleteDanny was very angry with the 4O for not watching the possible foul before the goal.
ReplyDeleteOr with Guardiola.
DeleteI would be indeed very interested in knowing what was he saying there!
DeleteI think this was for Guardiola. I don't think Makkelie would make such a reaction towards another elite referee.
DeleteI haven't watched too much of Makkelie before, but even just this second half makes it clear why he's making such good progress in his career. It feels like a very modern style: sure, there are some issues in foul detection / disciplinary control (as WCReferee was mentioning); but his personality and gestures work well, and he seems to have a good "feel" for the game, which we all know is the mot important thing for FIFA these days. The best way I can summarize what I've seen so far is it seems like his yellow cards have depended on how much they help his control of the game rather than on if the challenges actually warrant them. Not my cup of tea, but if this is the style UEFA / FIFA want, he seems quite successful at it.
ReplyDeleteDid Toko-Ekambi really touched the ball?
ReplyDeleteAgain, wow, now great no flag by Diks. All four Dutch ARs are one of the best in the world at the moment.
ReplyDeleteAgree ! Good teamwork
DeletePossible foul though; for me the defender was clipped. Surprised this one wasn't reviewed for the foul.
DeleteThe foul was never going to be called. Goals have been scored on set pieces by players who literally shoved away the player covering them.
DeleteThe closer replay didn't show a touch by player, but the live sequence shows a weird movement in the path of the ball immediately after the jump of player in offside, that's why I was deceived. For sure VAR checked everything carefully there.
ReplyDeleteTonight we see a totally "anti-Zwayer" performance. Last Friday we saw an annoyed Zwayer, making a crucial mistake and with an almost flawless card/foul management. However, the cards were correct on each situation but not part of a plan/line.
ReplyDeleteTonight we see a referee who makes little mistakes in foul detection and bookings, and for sure this can be improved. However, all the cards are there for something, not issued "at random". The attitude is perfect and the management is brilliant.
I must say I prefer the second option.
I completely agree with your analysis. I prefer the first option though! But alas, I think UEFA and FIFA are on your side here... :P
DeleteDon't forget that according to UEFA marking system you get lower mark if you lose control over the match than if you make a crucial mistakes. Amd crucial mistake may decide the winner of the match (wrong penalty and goal scored for example).
DeleteWOW another excellent NO FLAG by AR1. This is the best performance ever from both assistant referees, given the difficulty of crucial calls.
ReplyDeleteIt's all over now.
ReplyDeleteHaters are silent now. They wanted Danny to make mistake so they can say thats the reason Lyon is out so Ajax can qualify in group stage of CL.
ReplyDeleteAmazing and excellent game for him and brilliant ARS tonight.
I was one of the people who doubted this appointment, but I think you got me wrong. My "hate" wasn't towards Makkelie, it was towards UEFA who put Makkelie in a more difficult spot than usual (I still think they should have given him a different game, like Leipzig - Atlético, but luckily he did well)
DeleteAnother good news for Mateu Lahoz is coming, City out, it is hard to believe that committee wont use this occasion to appoint him for the final! Everything seems prepared for him there!
ReplyDeleteRegarding Chefren's question on Lahoz and City from yesterday, I think Lahoz's appointment is now very very probable.
ReplyDeleteBrilliant?! Are you serious?! Obvious foul, prior 1:1.
ReplyDeleteWhere now? Nobody saw that, I think you are the first one?
DeleteAnd even if it is, why is that now important since City lost?
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DeleteAll in all, I think we can be satisfied with refereeing in Champions league quarter finals. My guess for PSG-Leipzig iz Orsato, Bayern-Lyon Kuipers (in 2010 the same semi final match was refereed by Rosetti, I am sure he won't miss the oportunity to be appointed as observer on the very same match he refereed exactly ten years ago). Lahoz for the final.
ReplyDeleteTurpin or Makkelie for EL final.
More and more I see Makkelie, I really enjoy his style. His development as Elite referee has reached a very high pinnacle. What one can like more than other things is that he is always focused on the game, he never has that "relaxed approach" we see often in other referees. He finds always the best way to communicate with players but to keep a certain distance from them. Most important, he takes his decisions without any influence, and with a quickness, this was evident in the penalty appeal in 71'. He is very "cool".
ReplyDeleteI think he did very well this evening, about the situations, everything is related to the 1-2 scored by Lyon. I think committee will support Dutch team regarding the NO FLAG, once confirmed that player didn't touch ball. Both assistant referees with a superb performance.
Probably, times are mature for a further step for Makkelie in this season. Let's see what commmittee will decide.
I really enjoy is refereeing.
Yes it was funny to see the Lyon players trying to hugh him after the final whistle. More so out of sign of respect than anything. Based on performance he deserves the CL final but i think a bit too early for him.
DeleteWhat is your opinion on possible foul before 1-2 goal?
DeletePrior second goal Lyon - clear foul. All watch offside, but that is clear foul. Look at the movement the hand in which the whistle is. Every decision, every (foul - YC yes or no, Makkelie waits VAR.
ReplyDeletemakkelie is a robot, a magnificent robot !
ReplyDeleteHave anyone A Good replay from The possible foul before 1:2 goal?
ReplyDeleteQuarter-finals Referee's:
ReplyDeleteBest of the Round: Anthony Taylor
2: Danny Makkelie
3: Szymon Marciniak
4: Damir Skomina
no, no. Best of the round Makkelie.
DeleteTaylor's approach and style was more likable to me. Thus the reason he's #1 in my humble opinion. Makkelie's style is simply not my cup of tea. But hey, agree to disagree. I respect your opinion.
DeleteHere is situation about possible foul before 1-2 for Lyon : https://streamable.com/jfzgul
ReplyDeleteYour opinion?
DeleteClear tripping! Foul!
DeleteThis is a foul. I am disappointed that Kamphuis did not recommend a review.
DeleteAgree clear tripping
DeleteThats The Life of referee one decision makes your brilliant game for A nightmare
It's also a "missed incident" most likely, which lowers the bar for intervention.
DeleteMakkelie and Kuipers - currently two best referees in Europe, regarding both performances and style! Extremely firm, elegant, composed. They deserve final every year, so good they are.
ReplyDeleteJust compare them to arrogant Zwayer, chaotic and nervous Marciniak or to annoyed and bored Skomina. Real Masterclass!
For less tripping, Felix Zwayer give penalty-kick in the match Lyon vs. Juventus. Clear tripping, obvious foul. Ende!
ReplyDeleteAnd for more tripping, Marciniak didn't give a penalty for Atletico ;)
DeleteHere on Swiss tv they praise the decision to allow 1-2. They were analysing the situation and they don’t see a foul and therefore a correct goal. We can suspect something but it’s football. Well done of the analytics for the ref.
DeleteComplete and total lack of consistency and uniformity from a group of referee's that belong to same Confederation and are assigned by the same Referee Committee.
DeleteNow a close replay of the possible foul before 1-2 was shown, to be honest it is very hard to spot a contact, even less clear than Juventus - Lyon first penalty situation, play on should be supported there, VAR was right in not intervening.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion we saw a excellent referee team tonight. Makkelie was feeling the game very well and he was respected by players. He managed very well and I really like his style. For sure one of the best performances in this final tournament. His assistants were superb! And with the 1-2 VAR took really his time and I believe there is no contact or at least no proof of contact. And then the best decision is to allow the goal. I predict semi final for Makkelie or final UEL.
ReplyDeleteDuring game referee expert on BT sport said it was clear foul
ReplyDeleteBefore goal before Lyon second goal
DeleteSeveral candidates now for semifinals - which should be expected, because normally four games have to be covered.
ReplyDeleteI think the most obvious candidates are Kuipers and Taylor, with Orsato coming close.
Furthermore Mateu, if he is not spared for the final.
Maybe even Makkelie for the first SF?
Hategan, del Cerro Grande and Oliver technically are also possible, but very unlikely IMO.
However, I would not rule out completely Cakir and Skomina, if UEFA weighs experience and general skill higher than recent performances. Personally, I would not dislike them being appointed, but I assume, many would disagree on that.
Current form and current merit should be the only deciding factor. Assigning based on past glories diminishes the achievements of the referee's who are in great current form.
DeleteIt depends on if they think 2 rest days is enough for Makkelie. I think it is probably more likely that we see him in some capacity in one of the finals; the CL Final whistle is probably reserved for Lahoz, but I could see Makkelie as 4th official or as the EL Final referee.
DeleteI'll predict Kuipers and Orsato for the CL SFs; Lahoz for the final. But I'm always wrong :)
After Liverpool - Atletico Madrid, another good performance of the Dutch with superb AR's. In my opinion no foul 2-1 was the right decision but it at least supportable.
ReplyDeleteCommittee was to quick to appoint Marciniak for a EL semifinal, I see no room for Makkelie now. And based on the season, Makkelie is ahead of the Polish referee.
CL semi's: Orsato and Kuipers
CL final: Mateu
EL final: Turpin
The Dutch FA can be proud of 2 high class referee teams!
Makkelie as 4th official in CL final as a reward.
DeleteDue to the high number of comments, I think we should continue in another discussion.
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