FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) - FC Basel 1893 (SUI)
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Peter Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: William Collum (SCO)
Video Assistant Referee: Craig Pawson (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro José Hernández Hernández (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Hugh Dallas (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Claude Runavot (FRA)
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Peter Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: William Collum (SCO)
Video Assistant Referee: Craig Pawson (ENG)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Alejandro José Hernández Hernández (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Hugh Dallas (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Claude Runavot (FRA)
11 August 2020, 21:00 CET - Duisburg (MSV Arena)
Wolverhampton Wanderers FC (ENG) - Sevilla FC (ESP)
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Lorenzo Manganelli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
Fourth Official: Ovidiu Haţegan (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Guida (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Marc Batta (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Panagiotis Chatzialexiou (GER)
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Lorenzo Manganelli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
Fourth Official: Ovidiu Haţegan (ROU)
Video Assistant Referee: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee: Marco Guida (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Marc Batta (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Panagiotis Chatzialexiou (GER)
Video assistant referee for Orsato game is still missing on UEFA site.
ReplyDeleteVideo Assistant Referee
DeleteMassimiliano Irrati (ITA)
Assistente Video Assistant Referee
Marco Guida (ITA)
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DeleteBatta and Dallas as observers)
ReplyDeleteWow)
They will observe the games played tomorrow in Germany as well, so it's not 'special' for Oliver / Orsato.
Deleteoh(i didn`t notice this info yesterday
DeleteI think it is safe to say Collum is there as a support official/fourth official. Hategan's appointment also make sens, he is already in Germany, he could even get a semi-finals I guess. Oliver had a decent season so I am not surprised with his appointment but Orsato's appointment is surprising. The main question is, does this appointment mean he won't be appointed in Portugal and that he is out of Champions League final candidates? In that case list of candidatea became more interesting: Turpin, Del Cerro, Orsato, maybe even Oliver.....
ReplyDeleteBut there are lot of questions about Champions League now. My guess is quarter finals will go to Brych, Kuipers, Lahoz and maybe Marciniak....
I share all your questions, but for sure we can't know. Everything can change. We should check how many appointments for referees in both competitions will follow starting from today.
DeleteBut once arrived to the decisions for finals, I think they will take into account everything...
I agree, I saw Orsato as a strong candidate for CL games, depending which teams qualify further. Maybe UEFA can exchange him and Cakir :)
DeleteWhat is actually my problem - the fact that Cakir's selection for Portugal was previously announced (as well as Ivana Martincic's for WCL final tournament). Because of that I guess lists for final tournaments were already defined and it makes no logic for referees to travel from Germany to Portugal and vice versa. Another thing - what to do with Cakir? He will be in Portugal but did he deserve to be appointed? I think we all agree he do not.
ReplyDeleteIrrati and Guida will be in charge of the VAR in Duisburg
ReplyDeleteSince Taylor officiated in Gelsenkirchen on Wednesday and Oliver is now apppinted with Spanish AVAR that could mean there are no other English officials in Germany and that Taylor and his full team either moved to Portugal or went back home to England. I guess the first one is the case, we will se Taylor in Champions League...
ReplyDeleteSome info I hear coming from Italy, it seems as referees travel from home for every single game, so there aren't meetings, groups... I really don't know!
ReplyDeleteOrsato surely has to be in CL... One of better referees in Europe expecially after disaster for Zwayer and Cakir
ReplyDeleteWho is the chief comitee in Saudi Arabia ?
ReplyDeleteFernando Tresaco Gracia. He was an AR often at García-Aranda's side during international games and was, if I'm not wrong, interim head of refereeing at FIFA before Massimo Busacca took over in 2011.
Deletehttps://www.saff.com.sa/en/news.php?id=67
DeleteOk, thanks
Attention, maybe there's a new appointment:
Deletehttps://www.saudi24news.com/2020/07/saudi-league-news-officially-swiss-appointed-as-director-of-the-saudi-referees-department.html
https://www.saff.com.sa/en/news.php?id=330
DeleteWell I heard that Khalil Al-Ghamdi was removed from the post after around a fortnight so perhaps we shouldn't be surprised!
DeleteI'm not very enthusiastic about Massimo Busacca's mate being appointed though...
Tresaco's title is "Chairman of the Referees Committee", while Navarro is "Director of Referees"... are they different positions or different titles are used in these articles for the same position?
DeleteNope - best example is FIFA
DeleteBusacca is 'Head of Refereeing' and Collina 'Chairman of Referees Committee'.
That applies to FIFA; however, in some countries, the chairman of the Referees Committee has an executive role, leading the Referee Department.
DeleteIn the Saudi case, are you saying that both Tresaco and Navarro are working there at the same time?
The referees going to Portugal for the champions league and Germany for the Europa League where they previously announced?? And if so where can I find it?
ReplyDeleteSo far, it seems that Batta, Dallas, Collum, Hategan, Irrati and Guida are based in Germany for the remainder of the UEL matches.
ReplyDeleteMaybe the observers and VARs stay in a pre-determined location and referee teams are coming in for each match? Or referees and fourth officials are also staying there with their ARs and switching from referee to fourth official and vice-versa depending on the games?
DeleteDo you think Anthony Taylor will get a semi final? Maybe the final?
ReplyDeleteSAUDI ARABIA
ReplyDeleteSunday 9th August
18:00 Al Ittifaq Ad-Dammam - Al-Faiha'a Al-Majma'ah
Mattias Gestranius - Jan-Peter Aravirta, Mikko Alakare - Majid Ash-Shamrani
[Daniel Stefański, Sami Aj-Jaris]
18:30 Al-Wahda Mecca - Ar-Ra'id Buraidah
Irfan Peljto - Senad Ibrišimbegović, Davor Beljo - Abdullah Ash-Shahri
[Gediminas Mažeika, Mamduh Ash-Shahdan]
20:00 Al-Ittihad Jiddah - Al-Ahli Jiddah
Srđan Jovanović - Uroš Stojković, Milan Mihajlović - Khalid At-Taris
[Georgi Kabakov, Khalid Salawi]
Will Kuipers be refereeing next season? Thanks.
ReplyDeleteHe said he will ref till he feels good so i bet one more year for EURO then retire..
DeleteWhere is Skomina? Atalanta - PSG?
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think about this situations from Serbian league game between Red star and Macva?
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Ref decision FK and YC (IMO RC)
https://streamable.com/n34ifv
Ref decision play on (IMO PK and YC)
Offside prio to first Red Star goal?
DeleteI would say so. Unfortunately, camera position is not the best so I can't 100% sure. Here is the picture: https://imgur.com/rkYtn1B
DeleteIt looks to me as offside, but again can't be 100% sure.
Red card for the first one--mandatory decision, in my opinion.
DeleteFor the second clip, I think 'play on' is actually acceptable. It's a very weird situation. If there is contact initially, it's a total accident and the attacker might even kick the defender. Then, because the attacker is off-balance he puts his leg in a place where the defender never expects it to be. The defender is not "careless" in any way and tries to avoid contact. I don't think it's enough for a penalty. Unless, of course, the first contact is foul. But definitely not a yellow card.
I think, second clip - PK 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!! And YC......
DeleteSorry to come back to this, but I am interested in opinions on the second clip if people have them.
DeleteWhy a PK? Has the attacker done anything careless or reckless?
I guess I think people are a little hung up on refereeing by result. Though rare at the professional level, you can have a "bad result" when neither player has done anything wrong.
Do people see a foul action by the defender here or are we just saying "penalty/YC" because of the result?
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DeleteAs for me, they are reckless. The fact that the defender had no intent does not change anything..........
DeleteLeipzig - Atletico will maybe postponed because two people from Atletico has positve due to coronavirus.
ReplyDeleteSo far only 2 players (and 2 staff members) are tested positive, so I can’t imagine the match being postponed for that. Where did you find this information?
DeleteAccording to UEFA protocol, the game shouldn't be postponed.
Deletesi existe un positivo o más, pero hay 13 jugadores disponibles de la Lista A, el partido se disputaría salvo que se requiera cuarentena para el resto de integrantes. No obstante, en este caso, la última palabra la tendría el gobierno de Portugal.
@Anonymous : German Media writes that
DeleteUpdated predictions for Champions League:
ReplyDeleteBarcelona - Bayern Skomina
Manchester City - Lyon Makkelie
For me the same names but I would swap the matches :)
DeleteBased on his most recent matches I think Makkelje is just perfect for Barcelona-Bayern.
*Makkelie not Makkelje sorry ;)
DeleteAccording to uefa.com preliminary round final match that should be played today is abandoned.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/linfield-vs-drita-off-covid19-18751919
DeletePenalty to Wolverhampton by Orsato and YC for Sevilla
ReplyDeleteSevilla’s GK was with both feet outside the goal line. In Spain this penalty would be repeated.
ReplyDeleteOne should carefully note the badge which the officials ARE wearing, and remember which one they are NOT wearing on their shirts, since FIFA assumed control of the VAR Project's running and UEFA matches returned.
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DeleteAre you sure? It looked like his right foot was still touching the goal line.
DeletePlease no, he’s just bashing UEFA again. Nothing new...
DeleteGuys come on, it was not even a centimeter... With a curved heel of the shoe one can’t even proof an encroachment.
Even if you disagree no reason to attack UEFA for this, I’ve seen worse happening lately
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DeleteI wasn't trying to attack UEFA, I was just pointing out that their vision for Video Assistant Refereeing is different to FIFA's.
DeleteOk fair enough, then I misinterpreted your words by sensing a cynical undertone.
DeleteI just rewatched the penalty and the GK is not a problem for me, but indeed #22 SEV is a meter inside the box when the penalty is taken, and plays the ball after the GK save. So for that reason I expected an intervention and a retake. Have to admit I didn’t see that instantly.
Delete#22 should be #20 SEV
DeleteBT suggesting defender encroachment AND GK off line - did Irrati just not watch it?
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ReplyDeleteI have never seen anything in the rules. But it depends on whether it is regulated.
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DeleteAhaha, clever to do so. Don’t think the rules prohibit such.
DeleteSomewhat similar question, are referees permitted to wear their wedding ring?
I guess it is permitted, because Orsato for example always wears his even in European matches. I don't see him pass over the rules.
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DeleteNot that big a deal, but the LOTG are crystal clear though...
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DeleteClear with regard to the jewelry worn by the referee. I think he baby oil is allowed, at least not mentioned in the LOTG.
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DeleteSmall remark: Stopping the game for that was not required, because possession didn't stop and no promising attack was created.
DeleteHowever it is justified, if the referee isn't able to follow the game properly and needs some moments to recover.
Your opinion about the penalty for Donetzt? Very very harsh especially if you consider that Oliver waved off too penalties for Basel before
ReplyDeleteI first considered it clear, but another camera angle gave me a doubt, supportable but quite different from his line in the penalty area since the beginning of the game
DeleteI agree, but I understand why VAR did not intervene - we couldn‘t say definitely if there was enough contact, so we have to back up Oliver
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DeleteThis one seemingly fits the presents awarded by Zwayer, Del Cerro and Turpin... What’s wrong out there?
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DeleteCorrect penalty awarded by Oliver for Shakhtar Donetsk.
ReplyDeleteApart this easy going game for him, well handled by the officials.
I've only seen three replays, but I strongly disagree with calling the decision "soft".
DeleteIt's a clear trip!
I suggest to watch the replays carefully again. The attacker even anticipates the contact, starting his fall before the contact occurs.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone have the full sequence?
DeleteWith a few more replays I share your point of view. It looks like the attacker runs into the defender, falling before the contact, it is clear in slow motion. Definitely more play-on than penalty.
DeleteClear penalty for me.
DeletePredictions SF:
ReplyDeleteSevilla - Manchester: Hategan (Irrati)
Inter - Donezk: Brych (Dankert)
And the final to one of the QF referees depending on the pairing.
Is it possible to see Orsato in the EL final after Rocchi last year?
DeleteIrrati on a Sevilla match again and after his penalty slip-up(s?)?
Delete@Orsato: It's an argument against him, but I don't think, that it's completely impossible - especially as we have special circumstances anyway.
DeleteMaybe it will just be Turpin in any case - but I could also imagine UEFA going for the older alternatives.
@Irrati: If UEFA sees this as VAR mistakes, they might use somebody else. Otherwise Irrati makes most sense IMO, because he is in Germany already and worked with Hategan last week.
The problem here is not Rocchi, but Inter :)
DeleteHere are three penalty area incidents in the Shakhtar - Basel game, including the awarded penalty (74’)
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66’ https://streamable.com/i27fy0
74’ https://streamable.com/34lqdh
I am not sure that everyone will agree, but I think these are just excellent decisions, congrats to Olliver!
DeleteVery complicated situations and one can discuss them, but
I believe he made brave and correct decisions.
I change my original assessment, the awarded penalty is not soft. Actually it’s nothing less than attacker initiating the contact, so indirect free kick for Basel and yellow card for attacker.
DeleteAdmittedly, really hard to see in real speed.
I see your point now, but I have to say it is EXTREMELY hard to spot it, I had to watch the replay on half speed, and the replay was slow motion.
DeleteMoreover, I would not blame Oliver. He was in almost perfect position, but he was unlucky because from his point of view (you have it around 0:24), its more or less clear penalty, and in critical moment (unbeliavable really) there is a player running between the "foul" and himself. Therefore he couldnt properly see that attacker's upper leg is "sliding through air". Logical change of direction by attacker to shorter steps (great move by the way), extremely risky move by the defender and the player disabling the whole view - what a combination! Luckily, it didnt influence the outcome.
I agree with Oliver in the three decisions. Good job!
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Delete62' PLAY ON absolutely OK in my opinion if not the correct decision, VAR would have had more troubles, I think, in supporting a possible penalty call.
Delete66' Tricky situation, I think that in Italy this would have been penalty in all cases, but for sure you can support the choice by VAR. However, whistling it wouldn't have been a mistake.
74' I wouldn't have whistled this. Technically it can be a penalty indeed, and observer must support, also, these are situations in which it is impossible for you to spot what really happens. In my opinion everything is made by attacker who sees that defender is there and goes towards him without any responsibility for the latter. What is punished is merely the "position" of the leg there, thank to that, the attacker creates a penalty for him. For sure never a clear penalty for me, but at the same time to be accepted by an observer.
Kind of off-topic
ReplyDeleteHow do you think Anthony Taylor will be on Atalanta PSG? Not an easy match at all like Inter Getafe where he only gave 1 YC at 90 minutes closing his eyes to several other cards. Do you think he Will behave the same?
Is it possible to see Oliver in UEL Final, if Manchester United don`t pass?
ReplyDeleteWhy Oliver ? There are many names others who are waiting for EL final. Oliver is still young and his international palmares can't be compared with the palmares of Mateu Lahoz, Marciniak, Turpin, Hategan etc. All these guys are ahead of him.
DeleteMateu`s level is UCL Final, not UEL:)
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