Tuesday, 19 June 2018

2018 FIFA World Cup Match 16: Colombia - Japan (discussion)

Let's discuss here the performance of Damir Skomina in Colombia - Japan. Good luck to the officiating team! 
Match #16
Saransk 19 June 2018 14:00 CET
Colombia - Japan
Referee: Damir Skomina (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Jure Praprotnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Robert Vukan (SVN)
Fourth Official: Mehdi Abid Charef (ALG)
Fifth Official: Anouar Hmila (TUN)
VAR: Danny Makkelie (NED)
AVAR1: Bastian Dankert (GER)
AVAR 2: Sander van Roekel (NED)
AVAR 3: Felix Zwayer (GER)

147 comments:

  1. Finally Skomina gets his World Cup game... So happy for him!

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    1. Soham, me too :-). Best of luck to the whole team!

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  2. A very very good referee. Always liked him a lot. Break a leg! :-)

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    1. "Break a leg!" = "Good luck!" ;-)

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    2. Ah I understand now... Didn't know that usage :D

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    3. I didn't know that usage as well and I was shocked reading it at first glance :)

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    4. LOL :D Definitely not Skomina's or anyone else's leg ;)

      I'd love to watch him live but still at work :(

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    5. It is funny, because there is quite a similar term in German which means the same: 'Hals- und Beinbruch' (=broken neck and broken leg)
      Of course it is difficult to translate this one appropriately. :-)

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    6. sorry guys, didn't mean to shock you.... The "Break a leg" expression reflects a superstition in which wishing a person "good luck" is considered bad luck. So if you want somebody to perform well; never say "good luck" :-)

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  3. OT sorry if I don't report this in the spcific discussion, but it would cause confusion given the order of the posts.
    Official letter to FIFA by Brazilian football federation, following the incidents in Brazil - Sweden.
    Link:
    https://conteudo.cbf.com.br/cdn/201806/20180618163029_445.pdf
    They are asking the criteria used by referees in the two most discussed situations and the reasons for which decisions were not taken. I report that just as fact. Nothing to comment about.

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    1. Brazil v Switzerland you mean?

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    2. It will be interesting to see if they will get any response.

      Is the Jesus incident considered to be a clear and obvious error by you?

      I'm not convinced, and I'm not supporting Brazil or Switzerland.

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  4. Which outfit for Skomina?

    No way to wear blue or yellow.

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  5. Is it the debut for the red kit?

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  6. So, there is also the red kit.

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  7. This was something I have never seen before :D

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    1. Yep. Skomina should have made the sign of changing sides just after the coin toss.

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    2. Crucial mistake for Skomina before kick off :P
      I watch football games by years and years, this is the first time I see something like that.

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    3. I tuned in late... what happened? Someone had better put this in the video clip collection! :D

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    4. https://vimeo.com/275831288

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    5. Ha, I ususally don't see that happening above U16 or so... But funny!

      Thanks!

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  8. 2 firsts today, skomina's first and red shirt's first.

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    1. 3rd first, first RC of the tournament. Red o' clock

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  9. First RC of the tournament!

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    1. What a start! Perfect decision, handball denying a goal - Penalty+RC. Concentrated Skomina from the very beginning.

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  10. Correct PK + RC for DOGSO !!!

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  11. Well done, Skomina! WELL DONE!

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  12. Great decision! PK + red card for DOGSO

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  13. Well done, despite of keeper's presence behind, that's the very important thing to underline, ball was clearly targeted to the net!
    Very good Skomina!

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    1. Surely this was a big focus for Skomina, after what happened in Rome...

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  14. WoW Skomina! Excellent position, excellent RC.

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    1. FS1 commentators (USA): "It's to early for the red card..."
      Really people?

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    2. It should be never too early for following the rules... ridicolous!

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  15. Out of all games it's the debut for RC in Colombia v Japan... Football is the most unpredictable game :D

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  16. Trivia : This is the 2nd fastest RC in World Cup tournament

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    1. A player from Uruguay was sent off after 52sec back in 1986. The commentary mentioned it ;)

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    2. José Batista 1986 for Uruguay vs Scotland in the 1st minute.

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    3. Joël Quiniou (FRA) was the referee.

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  17. Excellent decision. Very firm, but not in any way dismissive of protests, very well done.

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  18. Dinarmarca vs Australia será dirigido por Antonio Mateu Lahoz de España

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  19. Argentina vs Croacia será dirigido por Ravshan Irmatov de Uzbekistán

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    1. Finally the Argentina - Irmatov problems are over... Really good!

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    2. Soham, here I want a detailed answer, and you should explain us how it was that possible, according to what you knew until today :)

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    3. I always said this problem might be over this year... In 2014 Irmatov was vetoed thrice by Argentine federation!

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    4. I believe after once vetoed FIFA won't appoint a referee to the team in the same tournament, so why they vetoed thrice? Were they so silly to appoint him three times to Argentina?

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    5. Yes indeed they did so... FIFA is so strange all these happen more regularly than we can imagine!

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    6. Argentina didn't want Irmatov for their match against Switzerland on R16. That was the only veto.

      The same happened with Uruguay at 2010 WC with Webb.

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    7. There was a veto in the final as well ;) The Webb - Uruguay thing was due to Larrionda's disallowing that England goal, I remember but ultimately it got Webb the final :D

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    8. Webb took the final since Uruguay was already out.

      As far as I remember FIFA had 5 names for the 2014 final. Irmatov was there but both teams agreed on Rizzoli. So the choice was made.

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  20. Por confirmar: Francia vs Perú seria dirigido por Mohammed Mohamed de Emiratos Árabes Unidos.

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    1. This will be the biggest surprise of the tournament if true... Unbelievable :o

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    2. Soham would be shocked. He is expecting Sato.

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    3. Confirmed Confirmado: Francia vs Perú será dirigido por Mohammed Mohamed de Emiratos Árabes Unidos.

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    4. Yes I'm very surprised. I wonder what Sato has done wrong. This appointment cannot be on merit or based on performances till date, that's for sure!

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    5. Anyway, can we still expect Sato on Matchday 2?

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    6. He should get a game. Why else did they nominate his 2nd assistant after the saudi team got lost???

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  21. Nothing interesting in terms of refereeing since the DOGSO penalty + RC for Skomina.

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  23. Colombia scores from a free kick... Seemed like an incorrect free kick awarded

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    1. 37' I agree. It should go other way.

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    2. Is it considered as a crucial mistake??

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    3. Goal was scored directly from FK?

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    4. Yes that's what it appeared to me... Scored directly from the free kick!

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  24. Absolutely no PK for Falcao in '37
    FK right after that situation was wrong

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  25. IMO wrong foul that led to Colombian goal.

    Even worse mistake by Japanese goalie.

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  26. Crucial mistake for me. If anything it should have been free kick for Japan.

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  27. Crucial mistake possible as the free kick was wrong, I think.

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    1. That should've been a free kick for Japan... Skomina is unlucky that it directly lead to a goal :(

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  28. Definitely wrong decision by Skomina - no japanese foul before free kick leading to goal - irregular 1:1, crucial mistake

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  29. Just knew that was going to happen - shouldn't have been a free kick in the first place, both players were backing in and went down too easily, play on.

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    1. If anything, should have been a free kick for Japan!

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  30. It can’t be a crucial mistake.
    Just -0.2

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    1. As the free kick resulted directly in a goal, at least according to UEFA, this should be a crucial mistake.
      It would have been different in case of touch by another player before the goal.

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    2. Ok. But in Russia observers remove -0.2

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    3. Yes, this remains something on paper, no doubts.

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    4. That's what I knew as well, which is why I attempted to cross-check from DrMr... So we can be sure this is a crucial mistake... And a clear example of the fact the VAR can never eliminate all crucial mistakes!

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    5. I saw it now. Unbelievable crucial mistake by Skomina and his AR2. His colleague had to alert him about his obvious error !

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  31. Can someone post a link of foul for free kick. I missed it.

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    1. I don't have it, but it was a shoulder-to-shoulder clash. IMO best decision was play-on or even a foul for Japan, but never a foul for Colombia.

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    2. https://vimeo.com/275829256

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    3. From Skomina viewing angle (which we first see in video), Columbian player was not moving very much. Japanese player came from distance and moved into him. Not a clear and obvious error. Unfortunately it results in goal.

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  32. The penalty alone delayed the restart of the game at least 2 minutes, but there is only one minute of added time.

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    1. Exactly so! Poor added time management!

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    2. The manner in which added time is being handled throughout the tournament has left a lot to be desired.

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  33. Far too little added time. One minute given, should haven been at least three.

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  34. Very unlucky Skomina. This could have effects on further appointments. He actually did quite well if we exclude this incident.

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    1. Other than that he was perfect... His luck is not always good :(

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    2. It's a pity, really. I like his style, his unique "easy going authority" - but bad luck follows him for quite a while..

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    3. And thus the possible reason why the UEFA Ref Comm has yet to reward him with a UCL Final. Maybe they know something we don't know.

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  35. OT - Fourth Officials
    DEN-AUS: Weyesa

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  36. Wrong decision does not have anything with luck.

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    1. I has... Skomina always ends up making some big mistake in a crucial time... It just happens sometimes!

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    2. Well if Falcao didnt score, we wuld alrady forgoten abut it and it wouldnt affect Skomina`s performance. Now it turned i8nto crucial mistake

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    3. In this case I think it does. What if Quintero hadn't scored the FK? Reminded me of Karásev in Salzburg-Marseille.

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    4. Sorry for typing errors

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  37. Regarding marks:

    ”A deduction of -0.2 should be made on the referee’s/assistant referee’s/fourth official’s mark if that official’s clearly incorrect decision indirectly results in one of the following outcomes:

    An incorrect free kick which results in a goal.
    - A missed free kick which results in a goal.
    - An incorrectly awarded corner which results in a goal.
    - An incorrectly made assessment of an offside which indirectly leads to a goal or that a goal is disallowed.”

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    1. One question : Is there any difference between "indirectly resulting" or "directly resulting" ?? Or both falls under the same category??

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    2. So, in 52nd minute Skomina has:

      -A crucial (double) correct decision (PK+RC)
      -A deduction of -0.2 for incorrect foul.
      -Time manegement to improve (very little added time)

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    3. Exactly, that’s also what I thought to know about UEFA’s observation systematics Ray.
      And to my knowledge no difference exists between (missed/incorrectly given) FK’s indirectly or directly resulting in a goal.

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    4. Are the UEFA (or FIFA) observation system details available online anywhere public?

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  38. Interesting Hauata fourth official in a so hot game ARG - CRO

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    1. Maybe because he is the most experienced 4th official among all the names?

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    2. When you say things like this, do you believe they are true?

      Think about all the fourth official assignments elite referees--worldwide--have had as their careers progress. In many (most?) top countries, the referees work as fourth in their domestic leagues even when they are the #1 referee in their country.

      You really believe a referee from Tahiti is the "most experience 4th official" at the World Cup just because he's been to a few FIFA tournaments as a reserve?

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    3. You didn't get the light hearted fun obviously... I just eluded to the fact that he is the only one among this group to serve as 4th official in 2 World Cup tournaments!

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  39. '56: Falcao's third dive of the game. IMO time for at least a verbal warning

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  40. 58th minutes, clear YC missed for COL. Not even a warning.

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  41. 64th minute: First YC, correct decision this time.

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  42. Correct YC for Barrios in 64'

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  43. It wasn't so easy, but correct corner awarded prior to Japanese goal.

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  44. Correct YC for James in '86

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  45. Good Skomina in an easy game... Good penalty + RC early and very positive impression throughout... Only blemish is the wrong free kick awarded but with Japan winning that is almost negated out... He will definitely get a second important game!

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    1. If i can make a point, you are to easily saying that games are easy for refereeing. For me only games for which you can say that are first couple of games and yesterdays second game. It is different thing that in most other games we had referees who did a good job and made it seam like routine job

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    2. In every game the quality of the referee is important to note... Russia v Saudi Arabia and Egypt v Uruguay were not easy just like that, the referees with their pedigree made it easy for themselves and out of the respect for those referees, players didn't do anything out of the board... Same for Skomina here, he kept full control and never made the match difficult for himself, players respected him and trusted him... No game in World Cup is "easy" just like that and sometimes it's the referee involved that makes things easy for themselves or otherwise (like Roldan completely messed up an otherwise easy game)... But yes overall this game or the first couple of games weren't as combative as say Portugal v Spain or Germany v Mexico, so from that point of view the ones mentioned are easy games! :)

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    3. I would disagree that the game was so easy. There was a lot of passioned tackles and possible confrontational situations. Skomina managed the game well; he didn't call every players' flop and dealt with simulation with verbal warnings only.
      RC was very brave, with excellent positioning.
      Foul before COL goal was wrong and I think that his concentration went down at the end of the half.
      He definitely deserves the second game.

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    4. Well, that is my point. When you say for games like this that they are easy, i think you are actually undermining how good referee actually was. It was not at all easy, he just made it look that way with his good performance

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    5. That's what I wanted to indicate! Never mind! When we assign a difficulty level to a match this match will be assigned "normal" but as you said the referee has made it that way :)

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    6. Well. I am glad we agree:D Maybe you just were not enough precise in your first post:)

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    7. Haha yes :D Eventually we mean the same :D

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  46. Missing YC. Skomina dive on the ground.

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    1. GIF of Skomina's fall xDDDDD

      https://i.gyazo.com/f9bdf1fd817a37ac21a93de5befbea59.gif

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    2. :-) No, one of the Colombian players triped Skomina at 92:32 and he fell..no YC for Skomina :-)

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    3. Yes there was clear contact... That's a foul, no simulation :D This is even funnier than the Marciniak stamp :D

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  47. Overall solid. Liked his foul detection overall, the card selection in-line with his style. Wrong free kick decision is the big blemish. But that should never stop him from getting at least one more game, for me a good candidate for quarter-finals even.

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  48. I thought Skomina did a very good job with foul detection, prevention and communication. Most important decision was the PK+RC: brave and correct. Only an easy decision because he was in a good position.

    Impressed with his management of the players, he was accepted and respected by all the players and was authoritative without being obtrusive. Contributed to a good match flow.

    FK before 1-1 was never a defensive foul, so -0.2 for that. My mark would be 8.3. I would like to see him in another match in the group stage.

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    1. He will surely get another game as he made a really positive impression today... Good chance to see him in games like Argentina v Nigeria, Peru v Australia or even France v Denmark on MD3... To mention, this was a perfect appointment for Skomina, the tempo and pace of the match suited it well and he looked very comfortable throughout the match... Really well done!

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  49. Ah, 90+4 I believe YC for Kawashima (Japan goalie) for time wasting. Cameras were focused on the fans but judging from the time that passed, correct decision.

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  50. Skomina did well by and large. I can't say he did very well because of that wrong FK resulting in Colombia's goal but luckily it had no bearing on final result. As usual, excellent fitness, elegant run, natural authority, common sense in management of all situations.

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