Wednesday, 27 June 2018

2018 FIFA World Cup Match 43: South Korea - Germany (discussion)

Let's discuss here the performance of  Mark Geiger in South Korea - Germany. Good luck to the officiating team! 
Match #43
Kazan, 27 June 2018 16:00 CET
South Korea - Germany
Referee: Mark Geiger (USA)
Assistant Referee 1: Joe Fletcher (CAN)
Assistant Referee 2: Frank Anderson (USA)
Fourth Official: Julio Bascuñan (CHI)
Fifth Official: Christian Schiemann (CHI)
VAR: Danny Makkelie (NED)
AVAR1: Tiago Bruno Lopes Martins (POR)
AVAR 2: Corey Rockwell (USA)
AVAR 3: Artur Soares Dias (POR)

137 comments:

  1. Joe Fletcher seems to enjoy the moment - he‘s constantly smiling. Nice to see.

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  3. Correct YC for a reckless tackle in 8‘. Good start.

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    1. Yes. He could lose control without early YC for Koreans, good decison

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    2. Yes, for the semifinal

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    4. Overconfidence, nice! But when it doesn't happen it makes it more fun to point at and laugh. But I see that your level of overconfidence waned in a matter of seconds. As you downgraded your bold prediction from a Semi-final to a mere Quarter-final.

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    5. Ah, and now you show your indicicivenes (much like Mazic in KOR V MEX) and delete your comment. Thanks for the early morning laugh. It's a great way to start my day.

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    6. Why does everyone on this blog have to be so nasty and mean. You have a lot of cleaning up to do Chefren!

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  4. 22‘ YC for persistent infringement. Not mandatory, but an understandable call.

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    1. On a positive note, Geiger seems to be very aware of particular players repeatedly offending the LotG. As a critical sidenote, in the build-up to this YC in my opinion he could have been more pro-active towards the offender (or did I miss that clear warning before?)

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    2. I've never been a big fan of Geiger. It's just my thing with him and the incidents he's had throughout his career. But I must say that I am more than happy to see him doing what Mazic neglected and outrite refused to do in MEX V KOR. He's using his cards to control the Korean fouling tactics thus protecting the physical well being of the German players. Well done Mark!

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    3. I didn’t see any clear warning, but as it is a YC for accumulation I think it’s better not to. If he signals to everyone on the pitch that the next could by that player is yellow, he puts unnecessary pressure on him to give. The next foul might be super soft or just one minute after he booked a team mate for accumulation. Having a word with him while passing by is better management here IMO, which probably is what happened

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    4. @DutchRef: Totally agreed. The YC in 22‘ was rather surprising for me, too. There should have been a public warning before to make clear that he won‘t allow persistent infringement.

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    5. Talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words. Irmatov used his words and failed, as have other referee's.

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    6. I think it was an excellently placed YC! Both the amount of intensity of the Korean fouls went down in the last 20min of this half. This half was a prime example of how to defuse a potentially hot game through an attentive first 30min

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    7. Agreed Lewis. It feels like the Koreans got the message after that yellow card. Like Sheriff said, in this World Cup we've seen that players aren't responding to verbal warnings. Perhaps an unexpected (but correct) yellow card early in the game was a wake-up-call to the Koreans that their tactics weren't going to get by today.

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    8. @Sheriff I don’t disagree on the YC, as can obviously been understood from my post. My point - on a detail level - is it could have been sold somewhat better by issuing a previous verbal warning. Reasoning on from your words I conclude that you don’t see any place for verbal warnings to manage a game? Or do I draw the wrong conclusion here?
      @Lewis/Soccer Guy I don’t criticise both YC’s, I only pointed out that it might have been better to not let the 2nd one come as a surprise. That would not have affected Geiger’s strong and adequate dealing with the South Korean physical play would it?

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    9. @DutchRef see my first comment. I personally think that it was actually quite wise to do it this way. Besides we don’t know how much of a surprise it was to the player

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    10. @Lewis I understand your reasoning and personally I don’t like the artificial “last warning gesture” that much either. But one can also issue a public warning without making a gesture suggesting next time will be mandatory yellow I think. Admitted, it’s not that big an issue and management of the physical Korean play is efficient.

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    11. Dutch,
      I do speak to players. However unlike the referee's in Russia who spend 90 minutes pleading and begging with the players. I never let it go that far. I follow through on my verbal warnings.

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    12. @DutchRef true! In the end it’s probably a question of style (and also if there’s time for a soft public warning)

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    13. @Sheriff Then it’s clear to me and I can’t and won’t argue that.
      @Lewis Amen

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  5. Not too difficult match for Geiger. Solid first half with some mistakes in foul detection.

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  6. Good first half from Geiger! He is very aware and proactive of South Korea's physical tactics.

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  7. Correct YC in 48‘ - SPA and persistent infringement.

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  8. Correct YC for Heung-Min-Son for diving

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    1. I support no penalty call for sure. Still, the yc was harsh. There absolutely was contact and player went with the contact as every player has throughout the tournament. The ref basically assumed no contact by issuing yellow there, as stated I consider that unnecessary yellow.

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  10. Finally a YC for (a not so clear) simulation!

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  11. First YC for simulation in this tournament. And it wasn't the clearest one.

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    1. Not the clearest of the tournament, but indeed a dive. He tried to deceive the referee.

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  12. Hum? What’s that ? Simulation YC ? Geiger is ill ? ^^

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    1. Why? Completly correct!

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    2. Lol i spoke about the nature of infringing and the first YC for simulation. Was a joke dude ;)

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  13. Neither foul nor simulation IMO

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    1. Totally agree. Neither foul nor simulation.

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  14. Absolutely correct YC for diving, well done!

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  15. Superb YC for Son - initiates contact in order to deceive the referee. Good carding technique as well

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  16. If I was the referee I would be exhausted right now :O

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  17. For a reigning defending world champion. Germany plays and looks really terrible. Probably worst defending champion since France in 2002.

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  18. 6 minutes are too many for me.

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  19. Mark Geiger - what a game!

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    1. Brych for final - in a recreational league only :)

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    2. @Ruud Don't jump to conclusions so quick... Brych has to earn it, Germany's elimination alone can't make it certain for Brych!

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  21. Correct VAR intervention - 1-0 KOR-GER was valid as the ball was played by a German defender.
    Good performance by Geiger - of course he will get another game. Embarrassing game by Germany, deserved elimination.

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  22. About the goal by KOR, it is the procedure by VAR that referee must check the offside situation in case of a deliberate play to be assessed. So, for this reason, VAR invited Geiger. Otherwise, they could have solved it directly by themselves.

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    1. I agree, but as a referee I would like to have the last word. At the and it suppose to be his decision.

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  23. Three referee still fight for the final: Geiger - Pitana - Faghani

    Good luck!

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    1. As an American, it makes me so proud to hear things like this. I wish he had gotten the goal decision correct on the field but no matter! I'd love to hear how MLS fans think of experts holding Geiger in such high regard.

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    2. There are other candidates too!

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    3. Pitana, Cakir, Faghani, Ricci.

      For me. In that order.

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    4. Kuipers, Çakir, Pitana. Geiger does not have a shot for the final IMO

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    5. Maybe Geiger as VAR head referee in Final. Who knows?

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  24. For the sake of marking, will the South Korea offside situation go down as a KMI miss for Geiger since he didn't overrule his assistant?

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    1. I believe the AR flag was for clarification - offside wasn't awarded. It was a flag to call over Mark Geiger and to consult VAR to identify/confirm who played the pass

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    2. The referee team always must take a decision themselves - and they did it here, I think.
      Nevertheless not a big mistake as it was difficult to detect. And in times of VAR maybe no negative point at all.

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    3. If that would be the case, is the offside flagsignal than correct? Wouldn't it be better to give a signal, flag straight in the air, so the public can understand that there is something to check?

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  25. Mark Geiger was excellent in a crazy situation. What a match!

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  26. What do you think? Does Felix Brych still have a chance to get the final after his first match? After the early elimination of germany I hope so...

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    1. No rather hope not! There are more deserving names... And considering how Hategan was treated (and rightly so!), I sincerely hope Brych doesn't get the final!

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    2. can imagine that Brych can whistle a knockout round and semifinals.

      But in my opinion, Brych must first show good performance otherwise it will be tight for him

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    3. think about the 1st match of Rizzoli in 2014... this could not be the problem... despite of them i don't see Brych in the final

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  27. Iam quite sure we will see Brych in 1/8final and then everything depends on his performance there. Personally in this moment I would see Cakir amd Kuipers, may be even Faghani a bit in front.
    But the good news is IMO an excellent performance by Geiger today - so we will see him again in the tournament for sure.
    Ok. Now I order some delicious food from a korean restaurant. Kimchi for me! And Gary Lineker can throw a peace of paper with an old football-wisdom written on it away.

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  28. 9 minutes of extra time, after only announcing 6 by 4th referee... crazy unprecedented situation. Embarrassing even.

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    1. There was an injury, 2 goals and two VAR checks - adding further 3 minutes was the minimum.

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    2. Yes. Absolutely perfect from Geiger.

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    3. 6 minutes means minimum of 6 minutes

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    4. Far from it. I went back and timed the stoppages in the second half. I had 5:40 before the 90:00 and almost 3:30 in added time. Geiger accurately estimated the time it took for the South Korean player to be treated right before the 90:00 so 6 minutes was the correct amount of added time. There were then two goals scored so you have to account for that time as well. He did exactly what he was supposed to do.

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    5. According to the Fox commentators, Bascunan even put a 3 up on the board at 96:00 to indicate we were going at least to 99:00. I've never seen that before but I like the transparency and communication.

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  29. There are more names possibly for final game, and I think Mark Geiger is definitelly one of them. I like his style. Ricci, Faghani, Kuipers, Pitana, Brych and somebody else, they all have a chance.

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