Saturday, 12 June 2021

UEFA EURO 2020 Match 2: Wales - Switzerland (discussion)

Let's discuss here the performance of Clément Turpin in Wales - Switzerland, group A. 


Group A
Baku, 12 June 2021 15:00 CET
WALES - SWITZERLAND
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Fourth Official: Srđan Jovanović (SRB)
Fifth Official: Uroš Stojković (SRB)
Video Assistant Referee: François Letexier (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 1: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 2: Benjamin Pagès (FRA)
Assistant Video Assistant Referee 3: Pawel Gil (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nikolai Levnikov (RUS)
UEFA Delegate: Irakli Nakaidze (GEO)
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51 comments:

  1. SavRef12 June 2021 at 14:59

    Good luck to Mr Turpin and his team!!!!

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  2. Mikael W12 June 2021 at 15:19

    Clear freekick and a YC missed at 8', otherwise very quiet thus far (17').

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    1. Ref_170712 June 2021 at 15:23

      I don't like to say that but actually I disagree. Player went for the ball and played it fairly, after that there was an unavoidable contact. Hard tackle but no mistake to play on.

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    2. Chefren12 June 2021 at 15:27

      Not a big miss, but I agree with Mikael. Foul and YC to be issued, however in the context of the game, it was a very, very isolated event. So far absolutely nothing has happened.

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    3. Philipp S12 June 2021 at 15:29

      Not a mandatory foul IMO, because there is enough space between contact with ball and contact with opponent. It can be whistled, if the referee wants to reduce phsyicality in the game, but I would dislike a YC there.

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    4. David12 June 2021 at 15:32

      not a foul for me aswell

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    5. SavRef12 June 2021 at 15:48

      Supportable desicion to play on

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    6. Anonymous12 June 2021 at 15:54

      Foul and a talk would be my choice :)

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    7. Mohamed rabie12 June 2021 at 16:28

      Please mikael i need your information about algerian referee Mohamed sendid who refereed in olymbic games in Barcelona 1992 why he didn't referee in wc 1994 ?

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  3. Anonymous12 June 2021 at 15:29

    Thoughts on the CK given by Turpin himself at around 6'?, I couldn't see clearly at the time or on replay but commentator was sure it wasn't a corner.

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  4. Anonymous12 June 2021 at 15:32

    Correct direct free kick and yc, both mandatory if you ask me

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  5. Giovanni12 June 2021 at 15:35

    Good start for Turpin, calm, in control. Good YC 30', Free kick correct

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  6. pele2312 June 2021 at 15:49

    that could have been a penalty..

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  7. Quilava12 June 2021 at 15:49

    45' If SUI7 throws himself to the floor after such blatant holding, many referees would have called a PK

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  8. Anonymous12 June 2021 at 15:50

    I don’t have an issue with the play on in 8’, but I do think the Davies tackle from behind on the Achilles’ tendon should have led to a caution. It was a hard and reckless touch, even to be heard on tv.

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  9. Chefren12 June 2021 at 15:50

    Possible penalty indeed but the player was very fair, maybe Turpin didn't even notice this action.

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    1. Jackson12 June 2021 at 16:20

      Have you guys been fooled by the commentary as well? Look at the incident again and tell me what the Attacker's left hand is doing. The Attacker is also holding, that's why he doesn't go down. Mutual holding for me is no foul and play on.

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    2. Chefren12 June 2021 at 16:23

      I missed the holding by attacker, so even more correct by Turpin to play on.

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    3. Anonymous12 June 2021 at 16:36

      You’re right Jackson, but there’s quite a difference in the amount and impact of holding by defender compared to attacker. Nevertheless play on is a supportable decision for me.

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  10. Mikael W12 June 2021 at 15:51

    Well, José María García-Aranda gave a penalty at WC 1998 for less than that! But I think Turpin was quite correct not to blow for one there.

    Otherwise, some potential yellow cards if he wanted to clamp down (8', 42') but I don't really think that was appropriate for this game.

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  11. Sam12 June 2021 at 15:51

    Good first half for Turpin, well done

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  12. Anonymous12 June 2021 at 15:59

    8' FK should've been given, YC was an option but not mandatory
    30' mandatory YC for SPA given
    43' should've been a YC for reckless kick to #4 WAL
    45' impossible to give a penalty if attacker doesn't fall down

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    1. STEPHEN ARMSTRONG12 June 2021 at 16:57

      45' it's irrelevant if he falls down or not. a foul was committed

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  13. Chefren12 June 2021 at 16:08

    Correct YC for reckless use of arms.

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  14. Quilava12 June 2021 at 16:08

    47' Correct YC for WAL13 (reckless elbow)

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  15. Upstylon12 June 2021 at 16:23

    Correct YC for SWI2 (reckless tackle)

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  16. STEPHEN ARMSTRONG12 June 2021 at 16:24

    definate penalty, lines man was in a better position and should have alerted the ref. otherwise excellent performance by the officials

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  17. Chefren12 June 2021 at 16:24

    Now another YC for reckless tackle from behind, I agree.

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  18. Chefren12 June 2021 at 16:45

    Evident offside missed by AR1, we will have first VAR intervention.

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  19. DutchRedREF12 June 2021 at 16:45

    Offside

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  20. Anonymous12 June 2021 at 16:46

    Looked a clear offside even live. Poor call

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  21. Jackson12 June 2021 at 16:46

    First VAR intervention of the tournament? Offside after VAR check.

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  22. RikB12 June 2021 at 16:46

    First VAR this tournament. Goal of Switzerland denied. Good decision of the VAR, even if it took a bit long.

    Btw - why is this played in Baku? Almost no fans, horrible stadium....

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    1. Anonymous12 June 2021 at 16:47

      It’s all about “passion” €$£¥

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    2. DutchRedREF12 June 2021 at 16:48

      Money…
      Such nice stadiums and cities over Europe. For example in Portugal and France

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  23. Anonymous12 June 2021 at 16:49

    I disagree with ‘clear offside’! Yes, correct VAR intervention but by far not as evident as it looked like in the live sequence. Forgivable mistake by AR1 IMO.

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    1. Giovanni12 June 2021 at 16:50

      Full agree ! Thanks for your reaction !

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    2. Anonymous12 June 2021 at 16:51

      Mmm… half a meter, no crossing, slow pass. He was always offside. If you are in a team to whistle UCL final, you can’t make such mistakes

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    3. RikB12 June 2021 at 16:52

      Yes. Just wanted to post that. It seemed really clear at first, but in the last review, it was much less close than I thought.

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  24. Giovanni12 June 2021 at 16:56

    Good game, well leaded by Turpin's team.
    Best than Makkelie's team yesterday I think

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    1. Anonymous12 June 2021 at 17:06

      Foul detection: better
      Disciplinary control: comparable
      Key Match Incidents: Makkelie was far more challenged with 45' incident bringing media attention, almost nothing for Turpin
      Assistants: AR1s in both games with one big mistake, Danos looked better in general though

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    2. Anonymous12 June 2021 at 17:09

      I wouldn’t know why? Makkelie did a good job yesterday with minor mistakes (corner/offside issue, disputable no penalty call), just as Turpin today (1-2 missed cautions, disputable no penalty call). Apart from that Makkelie had more KMI to assess.
      But to be honest I don’t really see the idea of comparing these two performances.

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    3. Anonymous12 June 2021 at 17:11

      You can't compare. You should see Makkelie in Turpin's game and the contrary, to do that.

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  25. Chiagozie12 June 2021 at 17:00

    Why does Turpin blow his whistle like he has no Oxygen to do so more evidently in the first and last whistle of the game. He gives a vibe of non interest in the game, I could hardly hear them.

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    1. Anonymous12 June 2021 at 17:08

      Execution of final whistle was horrible, he couldn't blow for some reasons!

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  26. Sam12 June 2021 at 17:03

    Good performance by Turpin, 1 miss YC in the first half. As we predicted, the game is intense. Overall good job for the referee team.

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  27. vadim12 June 2021 at 17:15

    Good job by Turpin. I think we could only notice missed offside by AR1, corrected by VAR. Good disciplinary control and foul detection.

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  28. Theref12 June 2021 at 17:19

    Mistake by AR1 is even good for the start of the tournament. A close call corrected, fast and correct intervention. (Easy VAR call)
    No debate about it, good start for VAR-project.

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  29. Alex F12 June 2021 at 18:10

    Offside was a lot closer than it initially looked:

    https://i.imgur.com/o8Z25Oi.png

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  30. Anonymous13 June 2021 at 00:57

    HIGHLIGHTS

    https://we.tl/t-2LlBNIkw4h

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